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    Saturday was the FIRST DAY of the planetary week!

    Here below is only two statements from an article I compiled proving that, the Roman/Gregorian seven day planetary week was indeed created by man. During the time of Messiah, Rome had an EIGHT DAY MARKET WEEK with letters ABCDEFGH, and the seven day planetary week did not come along until AFTER MESSIAH'S TIME!

    How many still believe today's planetary week has cycled since Messiah's time, and even since creation? Those who make such statements are totally ignorant of the history of today's seven day planetary week! Also, Saturday was indeed the first day of the planetary week, and was not made the seventh day of today's week until 321 AD when Constantine revamped the calendar and made Sunday the first day of today's week.

    ‘ In the Roman chronological system of Augustan age the week as a division of time was practically unknown, though the twelve calendar months existed as we have them now. In the course of the first and second century after Christ, the hebdomadal or seven-day period became universally familiar, though not immediately through Jewish or Christian influence. The arrangement seems to have been astrological in origin and to have come to Rome from Egypt. The seven planets, as then conceived of--Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, the Sun, Venus, Mercury, and the Moon, thus arranged in the order of their periodic times (Saturn taking the longest and the Moon the shortest time to complete the round of the heavens by their proper motion)--were supposed to preside over each hour successively, and the day was designated by that planet which presided over its first hour. Beginning on the first day with the planets in order, the first hour would be Saturn’s, the second Jupiter's, the seventh the Moon's, the eighth Saturn’s again, and so on. Continuing thus, the twenty-fifth hour, i.e. the first hour of the second day, and consequently the second day itself, would belong to the SUN; and the forty-ninth hour, and consequently the third day, to the Moon. Following always the same plan the seventy-third hour and the fourth day would fall to Mars, the fifth day to Mercury, the sixth to Jupiter, the seventh to Venus, and the eighth again to Saturn. Hence, apparently, were derived the Latin names for the days of the week, which are still retained (except Samedi and Dimanche) in modern French and other Romance tongues. These names from an early date were often used by the Christians themselves, and we find them already in Justin Martyr. ( bold underline Added).

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03158a.htm

    Samuele Bacchiocchi, Ph. D.,
    Retired Professor of Theology, Andrews University wrote, ‘ What is surprising, however, is that initially the Romans made Dies Saturni(the day of Saturn) the first day of the week, followed by Dies Solis ( Day of the Sun), which was the second day.16 The reason is that during the first century the Saturn god was viewed as being more important than the Sun god. Consequently the Day of Saturn was made the first and most important day of the week. The primacy of Saturday over Sunday continued until THE EARLY PART OF THE SECOND CENTURY, when the prestige of the day of Saturn was eclipsed by the day of the Sun. ‘ Unquote, Sun-worship and the Origin of Sunday

    http://www.biblicalperspectives.com/...i_79.htmlClick

    You can read more of this in our articles compilation on our website at below..
    http://elyah.webs.com/historicalevidencedisp.htm

    http://elyah.webs.com/yahscalendar.htm

    http://elyah.webs.com/questionsforsaturday.htm

    Also see our posts on the lunar months recorded in scriptures here..http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthr...2805#post12805

    Shalom, YAH Bless!
    Eliyahu C.

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    If this don't WAKE PEOPLE UP, nothing will!

    Do you realize, none-not any of YAH'S HOLY CONVOCATION DAYS never-ever falls on HIS six workdays in the entirety of the scriptures??

    Search this Strong's lexicon link: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...vocation&t=KJV

    If the Roman/Gregorian's seven day week is the true Biblical seven day week, then, WHY are YAH'S HOLY CONVOCATION DAYS falling on the Roman/Gregorian's six workdays in today's weeks?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    YES WHY??? Because the Roman/Gregorian seven day week is not the Biblical or scriptural seven day week!!

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    Saturn's day and satan the devil, one and the same!!!

    The truth is sometimes stranger than fiction, however, this will indeed shock many people, and the world today is indeed the same as ancient Is-Ra-El worshipping molek, or moloch, and a star god called Remphan

    Steven in Acts 7:43 said .."Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon. " Where did Steven quote this from? It is indeed a prophecy for our time. Quote
    But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.
    But ye have borne H5375 the tabernacle H5522 of your Moloch H4428 and Chiun H3594 your images, H6754 the star H3556 of your god, H430 which ye made H6213 to yourselves. http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...ia=Chiun&t=KJV Amos 5:26.

    Here is the Strong's G 4481 Rhaiphan By incorrect transliteration for a word of Hebrew origin כִּיּוּן (H3594) 1.Remphan = "the shrunken (as lifeless)"

    1.the name of an idol worshipped secretly by the Israelites in the wilderness http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=G4481&t=KJV

    What was the name of that idol god deity? Now, the Hebrew word connection..H3594 Kiyuwn proper noun with reference to deity. From כּוּן (H3559)
    1.Chiun = "an image" or "pillar"

    1.probably a statue of the Assyrian-Babylonian god of the planet Saturn and used to symbolize Israelite apostasy

    Also read the Gesenius's Lexicon entry at the bottom of this page here..http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=H3594&t=KJV
    BOOM, What a revelation!!!!

    What else is Saturn a symbol of in ancient times, and a symbol of today??
    According to "Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated" Moloch/Molek is none other than a pagan god with many names; one of which is Saturn: "...let's look at who Osiris is. He committed incest with his sister, Isis, which resulted in the birth of Horus the Egyptian god of the dead as well as a Sun God .. Osiris is known by many other names in other countries ... In Thrace and Greece, he is known as Dionysus, the god of pleasures and of partying and wine ... Festivals held in Dionysus' honor often resulted in human sacrifices and orgiastic sexual rites. The Phrygians know Osiris as Sabasius where he is honored as the solar deity (a sun god) who was represented by horns and his emblem was a serpent. In other places, he is known by other names: Deouis, The Boy Jupiter, The Centaur, Orion, Saturn, The Boy Plutus, Iswara, The Winged One, Nimrod, Adoni, Hermes, Prometheus, Poseidon, Butes, Dardanus, Himeros, Imbors, Iasius, Zeus, Iacchus, Hu, Thor, Serapis, Ormuzd, Apollo, Thammuz, Atus, Hercules, Shiva, Moloch, and believe it or not, BAAL!" Burns, "Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated", p. 359;
    Check out this link below, and SCROLL THROUGH ALL THE PICTURES, and you will indeed see the connection with satan the devil in ancient times, and in today's world!

    https://www.google.com/search?q=satu...2F%3B480%3B360

    Now, what is a Satyr and its symbol??
    But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there. Isaiah 13:21
    But wild beasts of the desert H6728 shall lie H7257 there; and their houses H1004 shall be full H4390 of doleful creatures; H255 and owls H1323 H3284 shall dwell H7931 there, and satyrs H8163 shall dance H7540 there.
    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...a=satyrs&t=KJV

    And they shall no more offer H2076 their sacrifices H2077 unto devils, H8163 after H310 whom they have gone a whoring. H2181 This shall be a statute H2708 for ever H5769 unto them throughout their generations. H1755 Leviticus 17:7

    What does the word "satyr" mean? Notice the word devils H8163 sa`iyr adjective, masculine noun From שָׂעַר (H8175) adj

    1.hairy

    n m

    2.he-goat, buck

    1.as sacrificial animal

    2.satyr, may refer to a demon possessed goat like the swine of Gadara (Mt. 8:30-32)
    http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=H8163&t=KJV

    Also, the Lexicon..H8163 kid, goat, devil, satyr, hairy, rough http://www.blbclassic.org/search/lex...t=any&x=8&y=11

    I find it strikingly errie, that the word satyr is the first syllable of Satr-day, and pronounced the same! It would seem that ALL MIGHTY YAH stopped ancient Israel from Satr-... worship early on. However, Jeroboam later led the northern kingdom of Israel back into satyr-... worship. And he ordained H5975 him priests H3548 for the high places, H1116 and for the devils, H8163 and for the calves H5695 which he had made. H6213 2 Ch. 11:15

    Every time ancient Israel was in apostasy they worshiped Moloch, and the star god Saturn. Is it any different today, and is that prophecy not happening today? Most certainly!! Saturn's day bears the name of satan the devil, and he cleverly receives his worship! Also, I find it interesting that the god Saturn is also called the father of TIME!!! See Daniel 7:25; Isaiah 14. Remember, Steven was stoned to death, and they nashed on him with their teeth for saying these things! Satr-day worship!! It is called THE CURSE OF JEROBOAM!!!!!! REPENT, REPENT!!

    Shalom,
    Eliyahu C.

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    very interesting info..

    again we find the same word sound in..........sat·ire
    1.
    the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
    2.
    a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
    3.
    a literary genre comprising such compositions.
    people using whatever portrait of God they can find on the biblical smorgasbord of divine portraits to excuse whatever kind of violent and unloving attitude they have against people they hate or disagree with.
    The Bible has been used throughout history to excuse slavery, war, genocide, torture, vengeance, capital punishment, and the superiority complex of the “chosen”.
    The reality is that all of this can be found in the Bible.
    And yet, these things are the opposite of Jesus.

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    IMAHEBREW wanted a calendar change date!

    The nundinal cycle was eventually replaced by the modern seven-day week, which first came into use in Italy during the early imperial period,[14] after the Julian calendar had come into effect in 45 BC. The system of nundinal letters was also adapted for the week, see dominical letter. For a while, the week and the nundinal cycle coexisted, but by the time the week was officially adopted by Constantine in AD 321, the nundinal cycle had fallen out of use. For further information on the week, see week and days of the week. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar

    Also, The English word week comes from the Old English wice, ultimately from a Common Germanic *wikōn-, from a root *wik- "turn, move, change". The Germanic word probably had a wider meaning prior to the adoption of the Roman calendar, perhaps "succession series", as suggested by Gothic wikō translating taxis "order"

    Also, The ancient Etruscans developed an eight-day market week known as the nundinal cycle around the 8th or 7th century BC. This was passed on to the Romans no later than the 6th century BC. As Rome expanded, it encountered the seven-day week and for a time attempted to include both. The popularity of the seven-day rhythm won and the eight-day week disappeared.

    The cycle of seven days, named after the sun, the moon, and the five planets visible to the naked eye, was already customary in the time of Justin Martyr, who wrote of the Christians meeting on the Day of the Sun (Sunday).[8] Emperor Constantine eventually established the seven-day week in the Roman calendar in AD 321.[9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week

    See also the connection of the seven day week with Mithraism..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism

    People worship, and they know not what!

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    People don't know how many changes has been made to the Roman calendar.

    People don't know how many changes has been made to the Roman calendar.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar

    http://www.webexhibits.org/calendars...dar-roman.html

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    Thumbs down Where did H.W. Armstrong get his "eighth day" teaching?

    Where did H.W. Armstrong get his "eighth day" teaching? From the Roman Catholic Church of course. See here..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dies_Domini And here..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_day_(Christianity)

    Sunday is not only the first day, it is also “the eighth day”, set within the sevenfold succession of days in a unique and transcendent position which evokes not only the beginning of time but also its end in "the age to come" (Dies Domini, Ch. II, sec. 26.) (See also Ch. II, sec. 23.)
    Compare this above to what Imahebrew wrote below.

    Shalom Eliyahu, it might help if we discuss the 7th Day of the week. When Elohim worked 6 days and rested 1 day, the 7 days of the week were established. Those 7 days picture or represent the 7000 years in which Elohim is creating or renewing Himself...The Spiritual Man, Yahweh Elohim, The Messiah Yeshua. When you look at those days of the week and come to understand that each day is as a 1000 years, then one can start to realize that the 7th Day of the week is very important. That 7th Day is Elohim's Day, the Day of Yahweh, and on that day (the 7th millennium) Yeshua will return and gather His Elect for a Holy Convocation, and those who participate in this Holy Convocation, WILL rest from sinful man's WORK, which is sin. The 6 "work" days prior to the Day of Yahweh (The 7th Day of the week Sabbath), were/are Satan's days, as he ruled during those days (the 1st 6000 years), keeping everyone (except the Elect) laboring in sin. But the Elect will be those "remembering" THIS Sabbath Day, the 7th Millennium (7th day of the week), and will be convoking, resting FROM the labor of sin, and THIS Spiritual FULFILLMENT of the 7th day of the WEEK Sabbath, is the TRUE and PROPER keeping of the command to "remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy." It has nothing to do with the 8th day of the Lunar month, BUT, there is an EIGHTH DAY which follows the Millennium, and ON THIS EIGHTH DAY, circumcision will be fulfilled. During the 8th Millennium, after Satan is "released" and allowed to deceive again (he is not allowed to deceive during the 7th Day Sabbath-the 7th Millennium), those who again fall under that deception and truly follow Satan, will be cut off. They are useless flesh, just like the foreskin of a penis, and ALL useless flesh will be cut off sometime during the 8th Millennium. This EIGHTH Millennium IS the EIGHTH GREAT DAY which follows the 7th Day of the Week, not the 7th or 8th day of the Lunar month.
    I can't believe he wrote this!!
    Last edited by Eliyah; 08-13-2014 at 03:32 PM.

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    Sunday to Sunday

    The Roman Gregorian calendar is set up to go from "Sunday to Sunday" as its Sabbath, and not "Saturday to Saturday".

    YAH ALL MIGHTY'S calendar days are from "new moon" to "new moon" and from "Sabbath seventh day to Sabbath seventh day" Isaiah 66:23.

    Notice here in the month of January..http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/...2013&country=1 in 2013, the 4th, 11th, 18th, and 25th is on "Friday" a "workday".

    Now notice here..http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/...2014&country=1 in year 2014 the same 4th, 11th, 18th, and 25th is on "Saturday" a supposedly Sabbath.

    Now notice here..http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/...2015&country=1 in year 2015 the same 4th, 11th, 18th, and 25th is on "Sunday" a "workday".

    Those who observe this as YAH'S calendar is merely fooling themselves, and they want be able to fool Messiah when He returns and reveals your nakedness!!

    Does the ALL MIGHTY YAH make the same monthly days "WORKDAYS" and "SABBATH DAYS" in 3 different years like this above??? No! The ALL MIGHTY YAH'S SABBATH DAYS and workdays are the same in every year. Those who observe a Saturday Sabbath is breaking this command in Isaiah 66:23, and the command to work six days and rest the seventh day Sabbath on YAH'S lunisolar calendar Genesis 1:14.

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    Thumbs up Nehemia Gordon And His Wall!

    Hi Everyone,
    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
    Recently, ImAHebrew acquainted me with Nehemia Gordon and his web page Nehemia's Wall. Here is a link to his web page in which Nehemia Gordon discusses the lunar Sabbath issue and the origin of the original Saturn's Day. I encourage everyone to follow the link and scroll down to the audio box and take the time to listen to what Mr. Gordon has to say. This man is a Karaite Jew, and I found him easy to listen to:

    http://www.nehemiaswall.com/tammuz-lunar-sabbath

    Thanking in advance anyone that listens and is moved to respond, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
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    Is the Biblical Sabbath A MOED??

    Quote Originally Posted by Spying View Post
    Hi Everyone,
    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
    Recently, ImAHebrew acquainted me with Nehemia Gordon and his web page Nehemia's Wall. Here is a link to his web page in which Nehemia Gordon discusses the lunar Sabbath issue and the origin of the original Saturn's Day. I encourage everyone to follow the link and scroll down to the audio box and take the time to listen to what Mr. Gordon has to say. This man is a Karaite Jew, and I found him easy to listen to:

    http://www.nehemiaswall.com/tammuz-lunar-sabbath Thanking in advance anyone that listens and is moved to respond, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    Greetings Spying,

    First of all, he never made any connection of a lunar Sabbath to tammuz, and he says former Christians are the ones believing in a lunar Sabbath, and such a statement is far from the truth. However, what did get my attention, was not his own ideas about the Jewish Encyclopedia article, but what a "reader" asked him in the posts below.

    I quote...
    Ester on July 21, 2014 at 12:34 am said: Shalom Nehemia, We do know the current names of months are Babylonian, but planets/zodiac/astrology is created by YHWH, that have been corrupted by mankind for divination purposes. How do you explain Gen 1:14 where the sun, moon, stars are signs/othot for moedim/appointed times, days and years

    And Elohim said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: Is not Shabbat a moed? Todah!
    And here quoted was his answer..
    Shabbat is most definitely not a Moed.
    Scroll down through the comments section, and you will see his answer. Really?? Well, YAH ALL MIGHTY says the seventh day Shabbat is a MOED, and I will quote this using the Blue Letter Bible Strong's for those who do not understand the Hebrew words, showing the seventh day Sabbath is listed as YAH'S "first" Mowed.

    And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak H1696 unto the children H1121 of Israel, H3478 and say H559 unto them, Concerning the feasts H4150(MOEDIM-APPOINTED TIMES) of the LORD, H3068 which ye shall proclaim H7121 to be holy H6944 convocations, H4744 even these are my feasts. H4150(MOEDIM-APPOINTED TIMES) Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. Leviticus 23:1-3. http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...a=feasts&t=KJV

    So much for his views on the Biblical Sabbath!

    The plain fact is, a Saturday Sabbath is only found on the Roman/Gregorian calendar, which is an artificial measurement of time created by man, and it cannot be found on the lunar months recorded in the scriptures.

    Now, suppose you tell people, why is the "new moon" used to determine the "first day of the month, and the 14th day of the month" but, the "new moon" is NOT to be used to determine days "2 through 13, and days 15 through 30" in the first lunar month Abib??? Does it make any sense to use the "new moon" to determine the 14th day Passover, and not use the "new moon" to determine all the other "days" in the first lunar month, and is the Biblical Sabbath NOT included in these "lunar monthly days" recorded in the scriptures??

    Shalom, YAH Bless!

    Eliyahu C.

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    The Prophecy In Isaiah 14:13.

    In Isaiah 14 is a certain one named Lucifer, and this is a prophecy where he brags I quote...
    How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of Elohim: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
    Isaiah 14:12-14.

    What is so significant about this prophecy you may ask?? Now let's quote Isaiah 14:13 in the Blue Letter Bible Strong's concordance, so you can see the underlying Hebrew word used here in this verse.

    For thou hast said H559 in thine heart, H3824 I will ascend H5927 into heaven, H8064 I will exalt H7311 my throne H3678 above H4605 the stars H3556 of God: H410 I will sit H3427 also upon the mount H2022 of the congregation, H4150=MOEDIM=APPOINTED TIMES in the sides H3411 of the north: H6828

    A mountain in scripture is considered a controlling power like Mount Zion, see also Daniel 2:44-45. The Hebrew word "H4150" Moedim is used here, and he is boasting about controlling the "Moedim". And sure enough, people today are claiming authority over YAH ALL MIGHTY'S Calendar in the Heavens Genesis 1:14, and YAH'S appointed times Leviticus 23, and people today are claiming their own power to appoint the "Moedim"!!

    The times of this ignorance YAH winks, but now commands everyone, and everywhere to REPENT!

    Shalom,
    Eliyahu C.

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    Lightbulb Proper Procedure Amongst Brethren!

    Hi Eliyah,
    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
    If you have a problem with anything that Nehemia Gordon has stated, then you are required by My Messiah Yahushua (Matthew 18:15-20) to first go to him privately and state your problem to him. If he will not listen to you, then take two witnesses with you and seek an audience. If he will not listen to your objection in the presence of witnesses, then you can bring your complaint to someone like me, and I will listen to your complaint because I am a member of the Assembly. Of course, I accept questioning Nehemia on his blog just the same as a private conversation. After all, it is his blog. He has the option to answer or not to answer.
    What this means, Eliyah, is that you must first go to Nehemia's blog and question him rather then bypassing that first step in first bringing your objection against him to me. I will not entertain or listen to your objection (1 Timothy 5:19) until you comply with the directive of the Apostle Paul and My Messiah Yahushua in this regard.
    Until then, thanking you in advance for your compliance and your reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spying View Post
    Hi Eliyah,
    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
    If you have a problem with anything that Nehemia Gordon has stated, then you are required by My Messiah Yahushua (Matthew 18:15-20) to first go to him privately and state your problem to him. If he will not listen to you, then take two witnesses with you and seek an audience. If he will not listen to your objection in the presence of witnesses, then you can bring your complaint to someone like me, and I will listen to your complaint because I am a member of the Assembly. Of course, I accept questioning Nehemia on his blog just the same as a private conversation. After all, it is his blog. He has the option to answer or not to answer.
    What this means, Eliyah, is that you must first go to Nehemia's blog and question him rather then bypassing that first step in first bringing your objection against him to me. I will not entertain or listen to your objection (1 Timothy 5:19) until you comply with the directive of the Apostle Paul and My Messiah Yahushua in this regard.
    Until then, thanking you in advance for your compliance and your reply, I am,Sincerely, Latuwr
    Spying, I never said I had a problem with what he said, but when a man contradicts ALL MIGHTY YAH and His Torah, such a man destroys his own credibility.

    However, I asked YOU this question, not him, and it has nothing to do with him either.

    Now, suppose you, Spying, tell people, why is the "new moon" used to determine the "first day of the month, and the 14th day of the month" but, the "new moon" is NOT to be used to determine days "2 through 13, and days 15 through 30" in the first lunar month Abib??? Does it make any sense to use the "new moon" to determine the 14th day Passover, and not use the "new moon" to determine all the other "days" in the first lunar month, and is the Biblical Sabbath NOT included in these "lunar monthly days" recorded in the scriptures??

    Shalom, YAH Bless!!
    Eliyahu C.

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    The 14th day and the 15th day is determined by the "new moon" every year.

    Greetings Spying, and everyone. I have nothing against people who observe a Saturday Sabbath personally, but the truth is, it is not found on the Biblical calendar used in the scriptures.

    Ken admitted to this..
    I have answered your resounding question before, the answer is YES, we use the "new moon" to determine the 14th day of Passover in the first lunar month Abib every year.
    See here..http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthr...fruits!/page22

    I agree!

    Now WHY is the 14th day always on the 14th day every year, and can it be on any other "day" in any year??? Why the 14th day Passover is always the same in every year, is because the 14th day is determined by the "new moon" or the first day of the first month Abib every year, and it cannot change from year to year, because it is determined by the "new moon" day every year.

    Notice the 14th day and the 15th day is determined by the "new moon" in both the "first year" Exodus 12:6 through Exodus 13:9, and "the second year" Numbers 9:1-5.

    Well, because Ken admitted to the 14th day Passover being determined by the "new moon" in the first lunar month Abib every year, he will also have to admit, that the 15th day is also determined by the "new moon" every year, and this was indeed where I was heading on the wave sheaf thread, and he locked up the wave sheaf thread.

    Moses said in Exodus 13:9 the 15th day is a SIGN DAY that YAH'S Law may be in thy mouth, which is indeed both the first day of F.U.B. and a seventh day Shabbat Deuteronomy 5:12-15, and this true by comparing both these scriptures with Numbers 33:3-4 in every year determined by the "new moon" in the first lunar month Abib. This completely destroys a weekly Sabbath being on the 17th day in the first lunar month every year.

    This means that the 14th day Passover is on the same day every year, and the 15th day Shabbat is always a seventh day Shabbat every year also, and you had better wake up to this fact of scriptures, instead of practicing an age old tradition of men, and deceiving yourself on this matter. A seventh day Sabbath found on any other calendar, other than YAH'S calendar in the heavens Genesis 1:14 is practicing idolatry, and denying the Biblical Shabbat commanded by YAH Himself.

    All I can do is warn people who now know the truth of these scriptural facts.

    YAH Bless!

    Eliyahu C.

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    Working six days and resting the seventh day??

    The feast of tabernacles is coming up soon, and I wanted people to be aware, and notice if they are following the command to work six days and resting the seventh day Sabbath. Also, I would ask people to notice, if there is more than 2 Sabbaths being observed during this years Feast of Tabernacles.

    You will notice here on Tom M. feast of tabernacle dates this year, the 10th and 17th days, are the beginning and ending days of F.O.T.
    The holy days will be on October 10th and October 17th.
    http://www.eliyah.com/feast-of-taber...kkot-2014.html

    The 10th is on a Friday, and the 17th is on a Friday, the sixth day of the Roman workweek. Where in the scriptures, does the F.O.T. begins on a "workday"??

    Now let's see, Sun. through Thurs. evening is only working 5 days, and Friday the 10th is a Sabbath, and a Saturday is a Sabbath, which is working 5 days, and resting 2 days, and this is the first week. And from Sun. through Thurs. in the next week, is only working 5 days and resting 2 days. Is this working six days and resting the seventh day, according to the 4th commandment?? Absolutely not!!

    Do you people see how a Saturday Sabbath forces you to break the 4th commandment of YAH ELOHIM?? This also has a direct bearing on "buying and selling" mentioned in the book of Revelation!!

    You have now been warned!!

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