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    no Elijah - not at all

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliyah View Post
    Lucy,
    yes it is totally fear mongering, and promoting fear~~~~

    This has nothing to do with fear mongering, it's the truth of scriptures, which you evidently neither believe nor do, and you do in fact believe as self deceiving Christians, and you THINK Messiah merely waves a magic wand to annul a contract that you have made legally with the devil, and it takes YOU to annul that contract.
    Jesus has no magic wand
    I know Yeshua, and nothing of Him ever destroys anyone He calls into His Ekklesia as He takes care of HIs sheep....
    not
    The Schofield dispensation bible
    Not the corrupted verses
    Not the carnal mind of religious men, playing games and advancing wild theories.
    I have no problem with the devil, he is a DEFEATED FOE.
    his value/authority/strength - was stripped from him at the cross.....
    his lordship with death was REMOVED.

    why am I to be afraid?
    fear is from the devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    Jesus has no magic wand
    I know Yeshua, and nothing of Him ever destroys anyone He calls into His Ekklesia as He takes care of HIs sheep....
    not
    The Schofield dispensation bible
    Not the corrupted verses
    Not the carnal mind of religious men, playing games and advancing wild theories.
    I have no problem with the devil, he is a DEFEATED FOE.
    his value/authority/strength - was stripped from him at the cross.....
    his lordship with death was REMOVED.

    why am I to be afraid?
    fear is from the devil.
    I'm not telling anyone to be afraid, and Schofield NEVER wrote the original scriptures, and where do the scriptures say, THE DEVIL IS A DEFEATED FOE as you write?

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    I'm not telling anyone to be afraid, and Schofield NEVER wrote the original scriptures, and where do the scriptures say, THE DEVIL IS A DEFEATED FOE as you write?

    Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 1 Peter 5:8.

    Want to tell us that nonsense again?

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    some points of interests..... the book was written prior too 70ad.???

    let us not be afraid of a religious SUPERMARKET OF DOOM.



    that Revelation 1-22 was written regarding things that were shortly to come to pass.
    Revelation 1:1 “What must soon take place” on the left and Revelation 22:20 “Behold, I am coming quickly” on the right and then use these literal statements as theological bookends.


    perhaps before the 70AD destruction of Jerusalem, then the contents of the book can take on a new form.
    Not only was the book written before the destruction, the book was written regarding the destruction itself.

    There are clues,
    Firstly, the fact that Revelation 11 speaks of the Temple as physically still standing. “I was given a reed like a measuring rod*and was told
    “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers.*2*But exclude the outer court;*do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles.
    *They will trample on the holy city*for 42 months.”
    Revelation 11:1-2

    note '' the temple in Jerusalem was STILL STANDING''
    the contents of the book of Revelation did come to pass quickly and literally in the first century.*
    the jews declared
    “We have no king but Caesar!” (John 19:15), thus rejecting their groom and adulterating themselves with the Roman Government.


    doing some homework....
    Regarding the “mark of the beast,” it is important to note that in the ancient cultures of Rome, the public market was the main source of trade and retail. For people to enter the public market, they had to pass through the main gate.
    It was required of all who entered the main gate to pay homage to the idol of the Emperor.
    Once homage was paid, ashes were placed on the hand or on the forehead of the individual, and then they were allowed to pass through the gates and buy and sell merchandise.
    This was taking the mark.
    The parallels between this and the “mark of the beast” are stunning, and they further confirm the reality that the beast was Nero and the Roman Empire.


    Rome, the Roman Empire and Nero Caesar were represented prophetically as a beast, which controlled commerce and all other aspects of life.
    Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while.
    The beast who once was, and now is not,*is an eighth king.
    He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction

    This passage, which is speaking of the line of rulers in Rome, tells us exactly how many rulers had already come, which one was currently in power, and that the next one would only last a short while.
    This lineage leads the reader to the conclusion that Nero was the Beast in reference here. The rule of the first seven Roman Emperor’s are as follows:
    Julius Caesar (49–44 BC)
    Augustus (27 BC–AD 14)
    Tiberius (AD 14–37)
    Caligula (AD 37–41)
    Claudius (AD 41–54)
    “Five have fallen…”
    Nero (AD 54–68)
    “One is…”
    Galba (June AD 68–January AD 69, a six month ruler-ship)
    “the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while.”
    Of the first seven kings of the Roman Empire, five had come (Julius Caesar, Augustus, Tiberius, Gaius, and Claudius), one was now in power (Nero), and one had not yet come (Galba), but would only remain a little time (six months).

    Rome was metaphorically wounded and faltering as an empire because of Nero.
    Nero was not only a psychopath who burned down one third of Rome and pinned the blame on the Christians and persecuted them brutally, but also, when Nero killed himself (in AD 68),
    the political climate of Rome changed dramatically.
    One of the major changes was that Nero was officially the last of the Julio-Claudian line of emperors; thus the line ended, and it would have seemed, symbolically, as if the head of the empire had been wounded to death

    a miraculous turn around, the Empire was revived under Vespasian and Titus. When they came into power, they established the Flavian dynasty of Caesars. Instead of the beast dying, it resurrected under Vespasian, and he ruled for a solid ten years

    How do we know that this was the temple of the first century and not some future one?
    First, there is not one verse in the entire Bible that speaks of a "rebuilt" Jewish Temple.
    Not one.
    That alone should be proof enough.
    However, this passage is very similar to Luke 21:20-24. Notice that Jesus told the disciples that they would see this event. They had asked Him about their temple (verse 5), and Jesus told them it would be destroyed before their generation passed away (verse 32).
    Notice again what Jesus said in verse 24, "Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles."
    This is the same thing Christ told John in Revelation 11:2. Therefore, since the disciples' generation has long since passed away, Revelation must have been written before the nations trampled Jerusalem under foot in AD 70.
    The inscription to the book of Revelation, in the Syrian version, first published by Deuteronomy Dieu, in 1627, and, afterwards in the London Polyglot, is the following, "The Revelation which God made to John the evangelist, in the Island of Patmos, to which he was banished by Nero Caesar."

    This places it before the year of our Lord 69AD.

    an interesting idea...
    Ofcourse most know the JW s under a freemason influence peddled ''the supermarket of bible doom''....and is well recorded.
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    How long?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliyah View Post
    Ken,

    That is WHY I said this:

    You can annul that contract, however, first I would recommend that you regain your pre 1933 status of a private US national citizen, and when you do, all of the equity funds they have accumulated in trading of your birth certificate over your life time will belong to you.
    Shalom Eliyahu, how long have you been in this effort to regain the funds associated with your birth certificate bond? Do you have 1000's of hours of your time involved? How much do you expect to receive once you obtain the funds associated with your birth certificate bond, and do you have anyone that you know (personally) who has received those funds? Also, you said that Christopher Strunk charges a fee. Can you share with us how much that is? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.

    P.S. You might want to check out these links:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redemption_movement

    http://www.snopes.com/birth-certific...cial-accounts/
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    Lucy, do you agree with what you post?

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    let us not be afraid of a religious SUPERMARKET OF DOOM.



    that Revelation 1-22 was written regarding things that were shortly to come to pass.
    Revelation 1:1 “What must soon take place” on the left and Revelation 22:20 “Behold, I am coming quickly” on the right and then use these literal statements as theological bookends.


    perhaps before the 70AD destruction of Jerusalem, then the contents of the book can take on a new form.
    Not only was the book written before the destruction, the book was written regarding the destruction itself.

    There are clues,
    Firstly, the fact that Revelation 11 speaks of the Temple as physically still standing. “I was given a reed like a measuring rod*and was told
    “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers.*2*But exclude the outer court;*do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles.
    *They will trample on the holy city*for 42 months.”
    Revelation 11:1-2

    note '' the temple in Jerusalem was STILL STANDING''
    the contents of the book of Revelation did come to pass quickly and literally in the first century.*
    the jews declared
    “We have no king but Caesar!” (John 19:15), thus rejecting their groom and adulterating themselves with the Roman Government.


    doing some homework....
    Regarding the “mark of the beast,” it is important to note that in the ancient cultures of Rome, the public market was the main source of trade and retail. For people to enter the public market, they had to pass through the main gate.
    It was required of all who entered the main gate to pay homage to the idol of the Emperor.
    Once homage was paid, ashes were placed on the hand or on the forehead of the individual, and then they were allowed to pass through the gates and buy and sell merchandise.
    This was taking the mark.
    The parallels between this and the “mark of the beast” are stunning, and they further confirm the reality that the beast was Nero and the Roman Empire.


    Rome, the Roman Empire and Nero Caesar were represented prophetically as a beast, which controlled commerce and all other aspects of life.
    Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while.
    The beast who once was, and now is not,*is an eighth king.
    He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction

    This passage, which is speaking of the line of rulers in Rome, tells us exactly how many rulers had already come, which one was currently in power, and that the next one would only last a short while.
    This lineage leads the reader to the conclusion that Nero was the Beast in reference here. The rule of the first seven Roman Emperor’s are as follows:
    Julius Caesar (49–44 BC)
    Augustus (27 BC–AD 14)
    Tiberius (AD 14–37)
    Caligula (AD 37–41)
    Claudius (AD 41–54)
    “Five have fallen…”
    Nero (AD 54–68)
    “One is…”
    Galba (June AD 68–January AD 69, a six month ruler-ship)
    “the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while.”
    Of the first seven kings of the Roman Empire, five had come (Julius Caesar, Augustus, Tiberius, Gaius, and Claudius), one was now in power (Nero), and one had not yet come (Galba), but would only remain a little time (six months).

    Rome was metaphorically wounded and faltering as an empire because of Nero.
    Nero was not only a psychopath who burned down one third of Rome and pinned the blame on the Christians and persecuted them brutally, but also, when Nero killed himself (in AD 68),
    the political climate of Rome changed dramatically.
    One of the major changes was that Nero was officially the last of the Julio-Claudian line of emperors; thus the line ended, and it would have seemed, symbolically, as if the head of the empire had been wounded to death

    a miraculous turn around, the Empire was revived under Vespasian and Titus. When they came into power, they established the Flavian dynasty of Caesars. Instead of the beast dying, it resurrected under Vespasian, and he ruled for a solid ten years

    How do we know that this was the temple of the first century and not some future one?
    First, there is not one verse in the entire Bible that speaks of a "rebuilt" Jewish Temple.
    Not one.
    That alone should be proof enough.
    However, this passage is very similar to Luke 21:20-24. Notice that Jesus told the disciples that they would see this event. They had asked Him about their temple (verse 5), and Jesus told them it would be destroyed before their generation passed away (verse 32).
    Notice again what Jesus said in verse 24, "Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles."
    This is the same thing Christ told John in Revelation 11:2. Therefore, since the disciples' generation has long since passed away, Revelation must have been written before the nations trampled Jerusalem under foot in AD 70.
    The inscription to the book of Revelation, in the Syrian version, first published by Deuteronomy Dieu, in 1627, and, afterwards in the London Polyglot, is the following, "The Revelation which God made to John the evangelist, in the Island of Patmos, to which he was banished by Nero Caesar."

    This places it before the year of our Lord 69AD.

    an interesting idea...
    Ofcourse most know the JW s under a freemason influence peddled ''the supermarket of bible doom''....and is well recorded.
    Hi Lucy, in what you have posted above, it states that Nero and the Roman Empire was the Beast, and Nero killed himself, and the Roman Empire faltered until a miraculous turnaround under Vespasian and Titus, thus, the wound to the Beast was healed. Is this YOUR understanding also? Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    the best advice is to look at the time zone IAH

    not to have the masonic theory from the JW's and your dead pal Herbert and their ''take''~~~~


    I know you are indoctrinated....sigh but if you actually love the truth you would see the warning and the advice and when and to whom it was written
    but ofcourse I know [ in advance] you wont do this, you are far too deep into deception
    The truth of the matter is:
    John specifically states that the prophecies of Revelation would begin coming to pass within a very short period of time.
    He dogmatically states that the events of Revelation were “shortly to take place “and that “the time is near.”
    And as if to insure that we not miss the point (which many commentators have!) he emphasized this truth in a variety of ways.

    Revelation 1-22 was written regarding things that were shortly to come to pass = the beginning.
    Revelation 1:1 “What must soon take place” on the left
    and
    Revelation 22:20 “Behold, I am coming quickly” on the right and then use these literal statements as theological bookends. = the ending[/SIZE]

    then look at the ''characters in the storyline '' inbetween.
    then
    have the holy spirit advise us......... not as the phony servants to the freemasons called the JWs and Herbert Armstrong who copied the JWs agendas and offering up A SUPERMARKET OF DOOM

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    Dear Lucy, maybe you misunderstood my question?

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    not to have the masonic theory from the JW's and your dead pal Herbert and their ''take''~~~~


    I know you are indoctrinated....sigh but if you actually love the truth you would see the warning and the advice and when and to whom it was written
    but ofcourse I know [ in advance] you wont do this, you are far too deep into deception
    The truth of the matter is:
    John specifically states that the prophecies of Revelation would begin coming to pass within a very short period of time.
    He dogmatically states that the events of Revelation were “shortly to take place “and that “the time is near.”
    And as if to insure that we not miss the point (which many commentators have!) he emphasized this truth in a variety of ways.

    Revelation 1-22 was written regarding things that were shortly to come to pass = the beginning.
    Revelation 1:1 “What must soon take place” on the left
    and
    Revelation 22:20 “Behold, I am coming quickly” on the right and then use these literal statements as theological bookends. = the ending[/SIZE]

    then look at the ''characters in the storyline '' inbetween.
    then
    have the holy spirit advise us......... not as the phony servants to the freemasons called the JWs and Herbert Armstrong who copied the JWs agendas and offering up A SUPERMARKET OF DOOM
    Hi Lucy, maybe you misunderstood my question? I was not questioning the time frame issue, what I was questioning is the fact that it was saying Nero and the Roman Empire was the FIRST Beast, and he killed himself and the Empire waned, and then a "resurrection" took place where Vespasian and Titus rose up and carried on as the Second Beast of Rev 13. Do you agree with this? Or do you only pay attention to what you think is correct in what you copy and paste? Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Shalom Eliyahu, how long have you been in this effort to regain the funds associated with your birth certificate bond? Do you have 1000's of hours of your time involved? How much do you expect to receive once you obtain the funds associated with your birth certificate bond, and do you have anyone that you know (personally) who has received those funds? Also, you said that Christopher Strunk charges a fee. Can you share with us how much that is? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.

    P.S. You might want to check out these links:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redemption_movement

    http://www.snopes.com/birth-certific...cial-accounts/
    Ken,

    Christopher Strunk will ONLY help you regain your pre-1933 private US citizenship status, he does NOT do equity on your birth certificate, and you would have to contact him about the fee for this, and my Brother, I will call him Bill, he paid for mine in full .

    However, there is another man, his last name is Roark, he is an equity lawyer, and I'm going one step at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Shalom Eliyahu, how long have you been in this effort to regain the funds associated with your birth certificate bond? Do you have 1000's of hours of your time involved? How much do you expect to receive once you obtain the funds associated with your birth certificate bond, and do you have anyone that you know (personally) who has received those funds? Also, you said that Christopher Strunk charges a fee. Can you share with us how much that is? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.

    P.S. You might want to check out these links:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redemption_movement

    http://www.snopes.com/birth-certific...cial-accounts/
    PS:

    This has NOTHING to do with these people above.

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    This has NOTHING to do with these people above.

    Also, the sovereign citizen movement is a scam, and its NOT legal.

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    Go here below, scroll down, watch and listen to PART TWO.

    Without that birth certificate, you cannot play the bankers-money makers-monopoly game.

    http://www.lawfulrebellion.org/2012/...life-is-a-lie/

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    Thumbs up Who Is Your Master?

    Hi Everyone,
    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    Belief is important, but it is not all important unless your belief is the truth, and you are blessed to put your belief into practice. Those who follow the messages of Lucy on this forum know that Lucy teaches a form of LIFE NOW. Those who follow my messages know that I also teach a form of LIFE NOW. Do Lucy and I agree concerning LIFE NOW? Not at all!

    Basically, Lucy believes that she is being changed into an immortal being right now. She actually believes that she presently has been promised an abundant life on this earth right now. She actually believes in a future for herself which will only be better and better because she is completely in the hands of Yahushua as HIS workmanship. HE will supply all her earthly needs. HE will protect her from any physical death. Of course, this also applies to all who believe like Lucy believes.

    My concept of LIFE NOW is totally different. I do not believe that my present physical body is immortal or that my present physical body is being changed into an immortal being. Of course, I do believe in the coming Change (see 1 Corinthians 15:50-58). I myself am a flesh and blood being, and no matter whether Lucy is willing to admit it or not, Lucy is also a flesh and blood being. Any claims on her part to immortality right here and now are bogus. The only immortal being who exists right here and right now is My Messiah Yahushua. As the Apostle Paul writes concerning HIM right here:

    1 Timothy 6:11-21
    11 But thou, O man of ELOHIM, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
    12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on perpetual life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good confesssion before many witnesses.
    13 I give thee charge in the sight of ELOHIM, who quickeneth all things, and before Messiah Yahushua, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
    14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our YAHWEH Yahushua Messiah:
    15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and YAHWEH of YAHWEHS;
    16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
    17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living ELOHIM, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;
    18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;
    19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on perpetual life.
    20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of gnosis falsely so called:
    21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. The first to Timothy was written from Laodicea, which is the chiefest city of Phrygia Pacatiana.

    Notice in verse 16 above that Messiah Yahushua alone has immortality and, therefore, no other human being can claim to be such. Both Lucy and I believe that the Apostle John is still alive as well as certain others. This does not mean that they possess immortality. It does mean that if My Messiah Yahushua should desire that anyone should remain alive and not physically die that My Messiah Yahushua has the authority and power to make it so. After all, all authority in heaven and in earth has been given to My Messiah Yahushua.

    Back in May of 2003, my wife, Mary, left me. When she left me, I weighed in excess of 311 lbs. Almost immediately out of repentance and a desire to fulfill a vow to YAHWEH, I began a running program and a low carb diet. I reached a weight of 230 lbs and could not seem to lose anymore weight. My goal was 185 lbs. At that point, I began a food fast. I no longer ate solid food. I did drink coffee and diet soda and water. Take a guess how many days it took me to reach my goal of 185 lbs? That's right, I reached my goal on the fortieth day. Amazing, is it not? I give thanks and praise and all glory to My Messiah Yahushua who preserved my life and actually paved the way for me to keep my vow.

    During my fast, My Messiah Yahushua showed me in a dream what had happened in my marriage so I actually take no thought to critics like Lucy who imagine that they know what happened in my life with my family and who imagine that I am a servant of Mr. Herbert Armstrong. The servant is not greater than the Master. Did Mr. Armstrong ever fast for forty days? Then Mr. Armstrong is not my master. Who was it that fasted for forty days? All such are my Masters.

    I desire to comment on these words of Lucy which she posted in her post #678 on page 46 of this Thread which YAHWEH willing I will strive to do in my next post:

    "Jesus said '' I AM THE RESURRECTION,''
    for the truth

    John said "Behold the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world".
    Did He do it?
    Yes, He did! There is no longer a sin problem.
    Be Christ aware.
    Be dead to sin.
    Be alive to life, to Christ, to God.
    Your life is hid in God in Christ.
    God will work out the imperfections.
    We are not under bondage because we are no longer eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
    We are free to live like who we really are and free to be who we are supposed to be.
    Don't believe the lie.
    Believe the truth.
    When you know the Truth, He makes you free.
    Jesus Christ is the Truth.
    When He arose, you arose!
    He makes us free, we're already free, you're already in the resurrection!
    You are already in the resurrection! here

    if you have the I AM in you = you also have the resurrection,- and its power
    "

    Thanking anyone in advance that should be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spying View Post
    Hi Everyone,
    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    Belief is important, but it is not all important unless your belief is the truth, and you are blessed to put your belief into practice. Those who follow the messages of Lucy on this forum know that Lucy teaches a form of LIFE NOW. Those who follow my messages know that I also teach a form of LIFE NOW. Do Lucy and I agree concerning LIFE NOW? Not at all!

    Basically, Lucy believes that she is being changed into an immortal being right now. She actually believes that she presently has been promised an abundant life on this earth right now. She actually believes in a future for herself which will only be better and better because she is completely in the hands of Yahushua as HIS workmanship. HE will supply all her earthly needs. HE will protect her from any physical death. Of course, this also applies to all who believe like Lucy believes.

    My concept of LIFE NOW is totally different. I do not believe that my present physical body is immortal or that my present physical body is being changed into an immortal being. Of course, I do believe in the coming Change (see 1 Corinthians 15:50-58). I myself am a flesh and blood being, and no matter whether Lucy is willing to admit it or not, Lucy is also a flesh and blood being. Any claims on her part to immortality right here and now are bogus. The only immortal being who exists right here and right now is My Messiah Yahushua. As the Apostle Paul writes concerning HIM right here:

    1 Timothy 6:11-21
    11 But thou, O man of ELOHIM, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
    12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on perpetual life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good confesssion before many witnesses.
    13 I give thee charge in the sight of ELOHIM, who quickeneth all things, and before Messiah Yahushua, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
    14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our YAHWEH Yahushua Messiah:
    15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and YAHWEH of YAHWEHS;
    16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
    17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living ELOHIM, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;
    18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;
    19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on perpetual life.
    20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of gnosis falsely so called:
    21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. The first to Timothy was written from Laodicea, which is the chiefest city of Phrygia Pacatiana.

    Notice in verse 16 above that Messiah Yahushua alone has immortality and, therefore, no other human being can claim to be such. Both Lucy and I believe that the Apostle John is still alive as well as certain others. This does not mean that they possess immortality. It does mean that if My Messiah Yahushua should desire that anyone should remain alive and not physically die that My Messiah Yahushua has the authority and power to make it so. After all, all authority in heaven and in earth has been given to My Messiah Yahushua.

    Back in May of 2003, my wife, Mary, left me. When she left me, I weighed in excess of 311 lbs. Almost immediately out of repentance and a desire to fulfill a vow to YAHWEH, I began a running program and a low carb diet. I reached a weight of 230 lbs and could not seem to lose anymore weight. My goal was 185 lbs. At that point, I began a food fast. I no longer ate solid food. I did drink coffee and diet soda and water. Take a guess how many days it took me to reach my goal of 185 lbs? That's right, I reached my goal on the fortieth day. Amazing, is it not? I give thanks and praise and all glory to My Messiah Yahushua who preserved my life and actually paved the way for me to keep my vow.

    During my fast, My Messiah Yahushua showed me in a dream what had happened in my marriage so I actually take no thought to critics like Lucy who imagine that they know what happened in my life with my family and who imagine that I am a servant of Mr. Herbert Armstrong. The servant is not greater than the Master. Did Mr. Armstrong ever fast for forty days? Then Mr. Armstrong is not my master. Who was it that fasted for forty days? All such are my Masters.

    I desire to comment on these words of Lucy which she posted in her post #678 on page 46 of this Thread which YAHWEH willing I will strive to do in my next post:

    "Jesus said '' I AM THE RESURRECTION,''
    for the truth

    John said "Behold the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world".
    Did He do it?
    Yes, He did! There is no longer a sin problem.
    Be Christ aware.
    Be dead to sin.
    Be alive to life, to Christ, to God.
    Your life is hid in God in Christ.
    God will work out the imperfections.
    We are not under bondage because we are no longer eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
    We are free to live like who we really are and free to be who we are supposed to be.
    Don't believe the lie.
    Believe the truth.
    When you know the Truth, He makes you free.
    Jesus Christ is the Truth.
    When He arose, you arose!
    He makes us free, we're already free, you're already in the resurrection!
    You are already in the resurrection! here

    if you have the I AM in you = you also have the resurrection,- and its power
    "

    Thanking anyone in advance that should be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    Spying,

    I have asked you this before, and you never answered it.

    Drug addicts also believe they can leap off of bridges and sky rises too, however, will their belief prevent them from jumping to their death?

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    Also Spying,

    I have been doing more investigating into the scriptures on the apostle John, because I have a brother in the faith that I have known for 10 years, his name is also John, he does NOT seem to age as others do, and he knows when I'm in some kind of trouble, and he always comes to my aid, and I've never asked him about what your saying though.

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