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    So, it is sin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliyah View Post
    Well Ken, I'm not there around Lucy, and I'm not her nor your judge personally, however, it is sin to disobey the scriptural Sabbath, and most people today unknowingly or willfully ignorant are doing so, however, when scriptural and historical truth is shown, people are responsible for that truth, and will be held accountable for that truth.
    Shalom Eliyahu, so it is sin to not remember the 8th, 15, 22nd, and 29th days of the lunar month as Sabbaths, because that is what you consider to be disobeying the scriptural Sabbath? Now, in Lucy's case, do you think she is "unknowingly" or "willfully ignorant" concerning your lunar sabbath? Will you do anything to help her come out from her ignorance in disobeying the scriptural Sabbath? Now, she claims she is keeping the Sabbath and remembering to keep it holy. I'm not asking you to judge or condemn her, but is she really doing what she is claiming to do?

    The thing that Lucy doesn't realize, is that Herbert Armstrong's version of keeping a weekly Sabbath is rather simple and easy to accomplish, compared to your lunar version. Your lunar version requires YEARS of study and dedication to "private interpretations," and volumes and volumes of research into meaningless logic. But hey, she is sort of an expert in that anyway, so she might be able to "fast track" into "willful" obedience, and fit right in to complying with your version of the lunar sabbath. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Shalom Eliyahu, so it is sin to not remember the 8th, 15, 22nd, and 29th days of the lunar month as Sabbaths, because that is what you consider to be disobeying the scriptural Sabbath? Now, in Lucy's case, do you think she is "unknowingly" or "willfully ignorant" concerning your lunar sabbath? Will you do anything to help her come out from her ignorance in disobeying the scriptural Sabbath? Now, she claims she is keeping the Sabbath and remembering to keep it holy. I'm not asking you to judge or condemn her, but is she really doing what she is claiming to do?

    The thing that Lucy doesn't realize, is that Herbert Armstrong's version of keeping a weekly Sabbath is rather simple and easy to accomplish, compared to your lunar version. Your lunar version requires YEARS of study and dedication to "private interpretations," and volumes and volumes of research into meaningless logic. But hey, she is sort of an expert in that anyway, so she might be able to "fast track" into "willful" obedience, and fit right in to complying with your version of the lunar sabbath. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Shalom Eliyahu, so it is sin to not remember the 8th, 15, 22nd, and 29th days of the lunar month as Sabbaths, because that is what you consider to be disobeying the scriptural Sabbath? Now, in Lucy's case, do you think she is "unknowingly" or "willfully ignorant" concerning your lunar sabbath? Will you do anything to help her come out from her ignorance in disobeying the scriptural Sabbath? Now, she claims she is keeping the Sabbath and remembering to keep it holy. I'm not asking you to judge or condemn her, but is she really doing what she is claiming to do?
    Lucy is doing fine, Yah Almighty is helping her, she does not need any convincing from me.

    The thing that Lucy doesn't realize, is that Herbert Armstrong's version of keeping a weekly Sabbath is rather simple and easy to accomplish, compared to your lunar version. Your lunar version requires YEARS of study and dedication to "private interpretations," and volumes and volumes of research into meaningless logic. But hey, she is sort of an expert in that anyway, so she might be able to "fast track" into "willful" obedience, and fit right in to complying with your version of the lunar sabbath. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken
    The thing that Lucy doesn't realize, is that Herbert Armstrong's version of keeping a weekly Sabbath is rather simple and easy to accomplish, compared to your lunar version.
    And your Sabbath is nowhere found in the pages of scriptures, and this is WHY you nor any other saturn-worshipper up to date has NEVER proven from the scriptures that satyr-day is the Biblical Sabbath-why is that? Because you and they love the beast week, and suppose you continue to LIE and say the beast's astrological week has cycled all the way back to creation too, boy is that a religious lie.

    Weeks

    The Romans grouped days into an eight-day cycle called a nundina, with every eighth day being a market day.

    Independent of the nundinae, astrologers kept a seven-day cycle called a hebdomada where each day corresponded to one of the seven classical planets, with the first day of the week being Saturn-day, followed by Sun-day, Moon-day, Mars-day, Mercury-day, Jupiter-day, and lastly Venus-day.

    See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancien...of_measurement

    Your lunar version requires YEARS of study and dedication to "private interpretations," and volumes and volumes of research into meaningless logic. But hey, she is sort of an expert in that anyway, so she might be able to "fast track" into "willful" obedience, and fit right in to complying with your version of the lunar sabbath. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken
    It certainly does NOT require years of study, and you call the scriptures being a private interpretation, because your a dishonest false priest, and you refuse to accept the texts of scriptures.

    But hey, she is sort of an expert in that anyway, so she might be able to "fast track" into "willful" obedience, and fit right in to complying with your version of the lunar sabbath.
    Mr. you need to leave Lucy alone, and your insulting her does NOT help your case any either, and you must think your insults and lies helps your theology, after all, if you can't disprove the message, then you have to insult the messenger.

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    ELIJAH = thank you for your bible truth

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliyah View Post
    Lucy is doing fine, Yah Almighty is helping her, she does not need any convincing from me.



    And your Sabbath is nowhere found in the pages of scriptures, and this is WHY you nor any other saturn-worshipper up to date has NEVER proven from the scriptures that satyr-day is the Biblical Sabbath-why is that? Because you and they love the beast week, and suppose you continue to LIE and say the beast's astrological week has cycled all the way back to creation too, boy is that a religious lie.

    Weeks

    The Romans grouped days into an eight-day cycle called a nundina, with every eighth day being a market day.

    Independent of the nundinae, astrologers kept a seven-day cycle called a hebdomada where each day corresponded to one of the seven classical planets, with the first day of the week being Saturn-day, followed by Sun-day, Moon-day, Mars-day, Mercury-day, Jupiter-day, and lastly Venus-day.

    See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancien...of_measurement

    It certainly does NOT require years of study, and you call the scriptures being a private interpretation, because your a dishonest false priest, and you refuse to accept the texts of scriptures.

    Mr. you need to leave Lucy alone, and your insulting her does NOT help your case any either, and you must think your insults and lies helps your theology, after all, if you can't disprove the message, then you have to insult the messenger.


    the 2 dear boys are unable to reason at this time, [so be it] and have their minds converted [ when they were young] by an evil pervert, and a religious hoaxer[ as his record shows] and a criminal that should have been in jail.
    Elijah remember Father stepped in and reconciled us together a few weeks back, perhaps HE SHALL DO THE SAME WITH OUR DEAR FRIENDS.
    i love them dearly [my yankie doodle boys]
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    the 2 dear boys are unable to reason at this time, [so be it] and have their minds converted [ when they were young] by an evil pervert, and a religious hoaxer[ as his record shows] and a criminal that should have been in jail.
    Elijah remember Father stepped in and reconciled us together a few weeks back, perhaps HE SHALL DO THE SAME WITH OUR DEAR FRIENDS.
    i love them dearly
    I do too Lucy.

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    as the Father speaketh

    Psalm 23 acted upon daily is a carnal mind CLEANER or CLEARER.

    THIS WORLD'S CARNAL VALUES AND WAYS OF THINKING ARE PROGRESSIVELY REMOVED.....so that the DIVINE thought is imparted.

    the unsound human mind, and its dual reasonings has to be RE SET.
    vanity thinking is eliminated/deleted
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    as the Father speaketh to a friend

    i realise, not too many people live within the WORDS/ADVICE of psalm 23
    most people remain in the divided human world of religious expressions INC christianity.
    therefore ~~~~
    most people [however sincere] remain trapped within the bondages of satan and their personal carnal reality and convinced they are ''right''
    ofcourse ~~~~
    that attitude in people makes them remain UNWORTHY AND LIMITED and ofcourse trapped IN the
    PRISON PLANET OF LIMITATIONS.
    By following Psalm 23..................... allows John 10 v 10 to manifest within our lives.
    John 10 v 10 is not words on a page but A LIFE REALITY LIVED IN HERE.
    it works
    put it too the test and see [ as a daily experience] how it works and then YOU WILL WONDER WHY, you have been deceived by your religious belief for so long
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    as the Father speaketh to a friend

    Faith of the Overcomers of Rev. 12
    The Highest Calling that has EVER been afforded unto mankind upon this earth is coming upon those who are CALLED TO BE OVERCOMERS!!!
    Once a people comprehend, and have their understanding opened - SATAN, and the ENTIRE Kingdom of Darkness HAVE HAD IT!!!


    Ps 23 teaches \his people the rudiments on HOW to overcome ALL THINGS, as Jesus overcame.
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    as the Father speaketh

    when you heed Psalm 23 and its advice daily.
    you
    RECEIVE THE ROYAL POWER to Believe, Trust in, + have confidence in and Overcome just as Yeshua did when He walked here.
    its
    ROYAL ADVICE,
    for a ROYAL PEOPLE
    to receive ROYAL POWER. amen

    kingdom rulership powers

    try it and prove me wrong
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    the good shepherd releases his people...

    Our bodies were not designed to house the energies of hostility and fear.

    The problem is our mind has been imprinted with false belief systems which have caused us to entertain these energies within our bodies.

    As we learn to release negative energies from our tissue structures we will be able to recover from death.

    We were not made for death, we are life!
    Our energy system was designed to incarnate love and nothing else.

    Most have come from generations who have been locked into hostility and fear so they deal with life in this way.

    notice
    the Christian religion is a FEAR AND GUILT based one..................... leave it~~~~~denounce its sin and evils.......................... be converted
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    the good shepherd looks after His Sons/Daughters

    The only path to perfect physical health is obtained by being in the state of perfect spiritual health. If you allow the Living God to completely dwell within you, you will never be sick and you will never die.

    "Most assuredly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."

    Think about it for a moment. If the Life Force of God were to actually infiltrate and saturate every cell of your finite body, could it be possible to get sick and die?
    It is utterly impossible for anyone, with a tiny seed of faith, to accept that such a force could ever corrupt or die.
    There is no short supply of God’s Life. The Living spirit of God fills the entire universe. It always has been, IS and it always shall be.
    This living force is available by grace to all Children of God who can hear and accept the True Gospel of Jesus.


    { read more about satan's unholy medical establishment]
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    harp music from the Psalms of david's music

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEod...layer_embedded

    Whenever a troubling spirit from Yahweh came upon King Saul, David would pick up his harp and play, bringing relief to King Saul, enabling him to feel better
    . Have you ever heard this passage and wondered how music from a harp could have such a powerful influence over the emotional and physical bearing of a distraught King?

    Steve Rees combines his talent for plucking the harp strings with the healing frequency of 528Hz to generate music that is beneficial to listeners of all ages.
    Enjoy this brief introduction to this beautiful music and hear for yourself the sound of a Calming Harp.
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    as Father speaketh to His friend

    The Kingdom of God is NOW.
    The is no past or future tense in God’s Kingdom...It is the PRESENT...
    It IS NOW.
    From the standpoint of human chronology Christ Jesus spoke these words two thousand years ago, but HIS NOW is the very same as OUR NOW!
    The present NOW is the road to Eternal Life.
    It is only in the present NOW that we are are neither of human birth or death.
    It is only NOW that we become One with God. I AM!

    Those who do not dwell in this realization are to be considered DEAD.
    It does not matter whether such a human being is up and around with his heart beating or if he is laid stone cold in the ground.
    God sees this human as Dead.
    In the realm of Sin, a human being is either dwelling in the past or striving towards vain works in his uncertain future.
    He is merely a Dead Human if he isn’t Living NOW!

    The Kingdom of God is only NOW.
    In the Kingdom of God, we NOW do not bear any human anger or grudges
    . As NOW we forgive, we are NOW forgiven.
    We NOW are not humanly fearful, as nothing can NOW harm us.
    As we NOW love others we are NOW loved by God.
    As we NOW allow others, we are NOW allowed to enter the Kingdom of God.
    We NOW have no anxiety about the future as our needs are NOW being supplied by the abundance of Heaven’s treasures.
    There is NOW no-one to exact a toll as we NOW live in Grace.
    As we NOW feel the warmth of the Sun, hear sound of the wind, smell the sweet fragrance and see the beauty of God’s creation, we become One in the present moment.
    We are NOW brought to the Holy place by the Life in Christ.
    We NOW stand on Holy ground as we are made Holy apart from sin and it’s deceptive illusion.
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    as Father speaketh = who is this?

    Solomon's epic love story gives a very similar picture. It is written in the Song of Songs. The woman in this case is showcased by the Shulamite. She has been through many temptations and trials. But in the passage below we see her at the victorious conclusion to the story.

    SONG OF SONGS 6
    10 "Who is this who arises as the dawn,
    Fair as the moon,
    Bright and dazzling as the sun,
    As awesome and magnificent as an army with banners?!"


    Quite clearly the Day of the Lord has dawned.
    The dark visions of the night have fled away.
    The woman is no longer just bathed in reflected moonlight.
    King Solomon and the Apostle John both combine to show us far more glorious picture.
    Solomon sees the woman of wonder arising as the dawn and making her emergence in the dazzling light of the sun.
    The rays of the sun are bursting out from within her as she shines forth in the Light of her Heavenly Father.

    John sees the woman of travail has now come into her final magnificent destiny.
    The moon is beneath her feet.
    And she is clothed with the sun.
    And in spite of being in great travail John sees upon her head a victory garland of 12 stars.
    This is showing forth the complete and total restoration.
    The true remnant Church, is here.
    Here in this apocalyptic prophetic snapshot of "the Woman" we see the full and complete Congregation.
    The Bride of the Lamb, the Bride of Christ, even the Holy City not made with hands, has come into being at last.
    God's chosen Elect are finally all together as one.
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    The promises that have been given to us of God were given to those of us who are willing to conquer, overcome, and stand victorious over the prevailing conditions around us.
    The promises were not given to those who hide themselves away physically from the world of humanity, nor were they given to those who take on the role of being the victims of circumstance.
    To overcome something, requires there first be an obstacle to overcome.


    It is in the midst of humanity that we overcome and develop our senses to discern between good and evil. It is in the midst of humanity that we have to face our worst enemies (not people), and overcome and let our light shine.

    The objective of a true saint is to face the opposition (not people), overcome the problem, and bring our spirit into subjection to the light of the truth as a testimony so that others may see and come to the knowledge of the truth.
    It is the overcomers, those who walk in the light and glorious gospel of the truth, who are the light, the children of day, a city setting upon a hill for others to come and share in the security it provides.

    The action of overcoming requires an effort on our part and our participation.
    We have to initiate the action within ourselves.
    Our Father provided the power by which we are able to overcome.
    The primary enemy that is to be defeated within us, is death, and we must believe (trust) that the weapons, the tools that He has provided for us are sufficient enough to do the job required of us.

    Zech 4:6 “Then he answered and spoke unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.”
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    hmm a little revelation for OVERCOMERS.

    manna - fest~~~~

    hmm one such a MANNA-FEST is a Gospel LAW OF = THE LAW OF RELEASE.
    [ 4 overcomers]

    Father will show His people how this law of the New Covenant works.
    it is kinda interesting to see how this N,T, LAW operates from the experiences of the Hebrews WHO ARE about to cross into the RED SEA.
    Exodus 14 - a desperate situation = then comes the law of release.
    wonderful stuff.!!!!
    AND AN OVERCOMERS TESTIMONY- how they overcame satan.

    the case with the children of Israel.
    They find themselves in a desperate situation.
    They are trapped with nowhere to turn.
    There seems to be no way out..... They’re caught... Between the Pharaoh and the deep Red Sea...!


    Moses cries out....................................NOW FOR A MANNA-FEST EX 14 V 15
    Then the LORD said to Moses,
    "Why are you crying out to Me?
    Tell the sons of Israel to go forward. 16"As for you, lift up your staff and stretch out your hand over the sea and divide it, and the sons of Israel shall go through the midst of the sea on dry land.…
    FAITH IN ACTION = MOSES HEARD what to do = ''STOP CRYING and DO SOMETHING'' - is the law of Release.
    many believers are praying and praying but they never get to know when their prayers have been answered or when their blessings have been released.
    The truth is that release and reception takes place concurrently.
    In other words, blessings are received from Heaven the instant they are released into the natural realm.
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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