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    Lucy, your blood thirsty dependence on Yeshua’s blood is well documented.

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    so you run off on a tangent...................typical BROWN BROS PLOY
    when you cannot answer a question, use a diversion
    Hi Lucy, your dependence upon blood is well documented upon this forum, as you have stated many times how the blood saves you. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    Question How Does The Blood Save You?

    Hi Lucy,
    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    Yes, indeed, Lucy, please inform us how the blood saves you?

    Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
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    rather than ask foolish questions dear Spying

    what you should be asking is ''HOW can YOU be CHANGED correctly''= from mortal into immortal here.....................
    and it is not by having a Saturday Sabbath assembly and then a food fest afterwards.
    I sincerely hope you do understand how one day~~~~
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    Lucy, you love blood don't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Hi Lucy, your dependence upon blood is well documented upon this forum, as you have stated many times how the blood saves you. Ken
    Hi Lucy, here are your OWN words that you have previously written on this forum:

    He laid down his life as the Lamb of God who takes away our sins
    (John 1:29). He is our Passover Lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7),
    who has saved us from sin and death by His blood (1 Peter 1:18-19) that was shed once to forgive all sin (Heb. 9:26; 10:10).
    So, you love the shedding of blood, as you think somehow that shedding Innocent blood saves you. How is that? How does that work? Does your loving Heavenly Father desire the shedding of His ONLY Innocent and totally Righteous Son's BLOOD, so that He can "forgive" you? Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    U have to view this sacrifice from its true perspective IAH

    Jesus agreed to this sacrifice prior to His advent. Notice raping women killing nations harming animals was NEVER agreed to by these Victims.
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    Lucy, so YOUR heavenly father agreed to shed blood for forgiveness?

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    Jesus agreed to this sacrifice prior to His advent. Notice raping women killing nations harming animals was NEVER agreed to by these Victims.
    Hi Lucy, yes, your heavenly father is so different from the OT "God"...his bloodthirstiness requires his own son's blood. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    You are trying so hard IAH

    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Hi Lucy, yes, your heavenly father is so different from the OT "God"...his bloodthirstiness requires his own son's blood. Ken
    To make evil ( in destroying victims) appear as GOOD plus .....agreeing to something and not agreeing to being literally MURDERED ......does take intelligence to work it out. Sharpen up laddy,!!! How did the Hebrews feed thousands of animals in the wilderness of stones and sand hmmmm did yahweh drop down bales of hay?
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    Lucy, try making some sense.

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    To make evil ( in destroying victims) appear as GOOD plus .....agreeing to something and not agreeing to being literally MURDERED ......does take intelligence to work it out. Sharpen up laddy,!!!
    Hi Lucy, please, try making some sense. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    because the 3 boys have been indoctrinated let me ask a great question...

    how about we use those 3 brain cells.............

    The believer in the inspiration of the Bible is compelled to say, that

    there was a time when slavery was right,
    when women could sell their babes,
    when polygamy was the highest form of virtue,
    when wars of extermination were waged with the sword of mercy,
    when religious toleration was a crime, and
    when death was the just penalty for having expressed an honest thought.

    He is compelled to insist that Jehovah is as bad now as he was then;
    that he is as good now as he was then.

    Once, all the crimes that I have mentioned were commanded by God; now they are prohibited.
    Once, God was in favour of them all; now the Devil is their defender.

    In other words, the Devil entertains the same opinion to-day that God held four thousand years ago.
    The Devil is as good now as Jehovah was then, and God was as bad then as the Devil is now.

    Other nations besides the Jews had similar laws and ideas--believed in and practiced the same crimes, and yet, it is not claimed that they received a revelation.
    They had no knowledge of the true God, and yet they practiced the same crimes, of their own motion, that the Jews did by command of Jehovah.


    From this it would seem that man with his god can do wrong without a special revelation.
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    Lucy, you fail to understand the TEACHING method of Yahweh.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    how about we use those 3 brain cells.............

    The believer in the inspiration of the Bible is compelled to say, that

    there was a time when slavery was right,
    when women could sell their babes,
    when polygamy was the highest form of virtue,
    when wars of extermination were waged with the sword of mercy,
    when religious toleration was a crime, and
    when death was the just penalty for having expressed an honest thought.

    He is compelled to insist that Jehovah is as bad now as he was then;
    that he is as good now as he was then.

    Once, all the crimes that I have mentioned were commanded by God; now they are prohibited.
    Once, God was in favour of them all; now the Devil is their defender.

    In other words, the Devil entertains the same opinion to-day that God held four thousand years ago.
    The Devil is as good now as Jehovah was then, and God was as bad then as the Devil is now.

    Other nations besides the Jews had similar laws and ideas--believed in and practiced the same crimes, and yet, it is not claimed that they received a revelation.
    They had no knowledge of the true God, and yet they practiced the same crimes, of their own motion, that the Jews did by command of Jehovah.


    From this it would seem that man with his god can do wrong without a special revelation.
    Hi Lucy, you fail to understand the teaching method of Yahweh. Yahweh is willing to allow suffering and death in a "physical" sense so that His Kingdom will overcome these things. He desires that when we ENTER into His Land, that we do not allow ANYTHING that causes us to sin, to survive...complete and utter destruction of even the smallest of sins in our lives. So, He has told us what we need to do, and that is to Love Him with ALL our soul, mind, and heart, and if we do this, we will live forever WITH Him. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    yes you are correct Ken I have failed to understand

    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Hi Lucy, you fail to understand the teaching method of Yahweh. Yahweh is willing to allow suffering and death in a "physical" sense so that His Kingdom will overcome these things. He desires that when we ENTER into His Land, that we do not allow ANYTHING that causes us to sin, to survive...complete and utter destruction of even the smallest of sins in our lives. So, He has told us what we need to do, and that is to Love Him with ALL our soul, mind, and heart, and if we do this, we will live forever WITH Him. Ken
    inhumanity to all creatures.
    blood and guts everywhere over the lands
    rape and slavery of children and adults
    murder Inc,
    torture and sadness
    that MY OWN REAL LIFE Father would have never inflicted upon me nor my sisters nor our mother.....My Dad actually raised us correctly by example yes sir.
    but some fathers do abuse, harm and inflect pain upon their children = and end up in jail.

    nor did Yeshua inflict evil upon his family apostles nor during His ministry.
    what ever type of '''god''' this is in the OT bible [a he/she/it ]
    it bears no relationship to the characters of the Saviour and His invisible Abba
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    Lucy, I'm glad you could admit that.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    inhumanity to all creatures.
    blood and guts everywhere over the lands
    rape and slavery of children and adults
    murder Inc,
    torture and sadness
    that MY OWN REAL LIFE Father would have never inflicted upon me nor my sisters nor our mother.....My Dad actually raised us correctly by example yes sir.
    but some fathers do abuse, harm and inflect pain upon their children = and end up in jail.

    nor did Yeshua inflict evil upon his family apostles nor during His ministry.
    what ever type of '''god''' this is in the OT bible [a he/she/it ]
    it bears no relationship to the characters of the Saviour and His invisible Abba
    Hi Lucy, I'm glad you could admit that. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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