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    Lucy, it is a matter of FAITH!

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    NO man can keep the 613 commands.............. easy to understand.
    Hi Lucy, it is all a matter of FAITH. You lack faith that you can live by each and every command of Yahweh Elohim, and I do not. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    IAH seems you are one big miracle man Kenny doll................

    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Hi Lucy, it is all a matter of FAITH. You lack faith that you can live by each and every command of Yahweh Elohim, and I do not. Ken

    perhaps you should have been on the cross too..................
    Yeshua and Kenny Brown, = able to keep 613 laws
    Yikes
    It is CLEARLY STATED ''no man could could keep''
    but dear Kenny Brown from MO usa = faith talker only

    but this is boring............ who cares.........we all know you are bluffing BIG TIME because of your testimony here on LA
    not all of us are stupid~~~~
    Moses_Ten_Commandments.jpg
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    Lucy, there are MORE than 613....get your facts straight.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    perhaps you should have been on the cross too..................
    Yeshua and Kenny Brown, = able to keep 613 laws
    Yikes
    It is CLEARLY STATED ''no man could could keep''
    but dear Kenny Brown from MO usa = faith talker only

    but this is boring............ who cares.........we all know you are bluffing BIG TIME because of your testimony here on LA
    not all of us are stupid~~~~
    Moses_Ten_Commandments.jpg
    Lucy, come on. Just a LITTLE faith can go a long way, and if you would start to develop a little, you also could come to the knowledge of the Truth concerning your obedience to Yahweh’s commandments, all of them. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    Lucy, please make WAR against the Beast, and be victorious!

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    perhaps you should have been on the cross too..................
    Yeshua and Kenny Brown, = able to keep 613 laws
    Yikes
    It is CLEARLY STATED ''no man could could keep''
    but dear Kenny Brown from MO usa = faith talker only

    but this is boring............ who cares.........we all know you are bluffing BIG TIME because of your testimony here on LA
    not all of us are stupid~~~~
    Moses_Ten_Commandments.jpg
    Hi Lucy, don’t be like those who unable to make war against the Beast (Rev 13:4). Be victorious and overcome your sin against Yahweh’s commandments. All it takes is just a little FAITH. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    "Behold the man!" [from the truthbook]

    "Behold the man!"


    "The unfailing kindness of Jesus touched the hearts of men, but His stalwart strength of character amazed His followers.
    He was truly sincere;
    There was nothing of the hypocrite in Him.

    He was free from affectation; He was always so refreshingly genuine.
    He never stooped to pretense, and He never resorted to shamming.
    He lived the truth, even as He taught it.
    He was the truth.

    He was constrained to proclaim saving truth to His generation, even though such sincerity sometimes caused pain.
    He was unquestioningly loyal to all truth.

    "But the Master was so reasonable, so approachable.
    He was so practical in all his ministry, while all His plans were characterized by such sanctified common sense.
    He was so free from all freakish, erratic, and eccentric tendencies.
    He was never capricious, whimsical, or hysterical.

    In all His teaching and in everything He did there was always an exquisite discrimination associated with an extraordinary sense of propriety.

    "The Son of Man was always a well-poised personality.
    Even His enemies maintained a wholesome respect for Him; they even feared His presence.
    Jesus was unafraid.
    He was surcharged with divine enthusiasm, but He never became fanatical.

    He was emotionally active but never flighty.
    He was imaginative but always practical.
    He frankly faced the realities of life, but He was never dull or prosaic.

    He was courageous but never reckless; prudent but never cowardly.
    He was sympathetic but not sentimental; unique but not eccentric.
    He was pious but not sanctimonious.
    And he was so well-poised because He was so perfectly unified.

    "Jesus' originality was unstifled.
    He was not bound by tradition or handicapped by enslavement to narrow conventionality.
    He spoke with undoubted confidence and taught with absolute authority.
    But His superb originality did not cause Him to overlook the simple gems of truth in the teachings of His predecessors and contemporaries.

    And the most original of His teachings was the emphasis of love and mercy in the place of fear and sacrifice''.
    "He went about doing good."
    "Jesus was an unusually cheerful person, but He was not a blind and unreasoning optimist.
    His constant word of exhortation was, "Be of good cheer."

    He could maintain this confident attitude because of His unswerving trust in His Father and His unshakable confidence in man.
    He was always touchingly considerate of all men because He loved them and believed in them.

    Still He was always true to His convictions and magnificently firm in His devotion to the doing of His Father's will.
    "The Master was always generous.
    He never grew weary of saying, "It is more blessed to give than to receive."
    Said He, "Freely you have received, freely give."

    And yet, with all of his unbounded generosity, He was never wasteful or extravagant.
    He taught that you must believe to receive salvation.
    "For every one who seeks shall receive."

    "He was candid, but always kind.
    Said he, "If it were not so, I would have told you."
    He was frank, but always friendly.
    He was outspoken in His love for the sinner and in His hatred for sin.
    But throughout all this amazing frankness He was unerringly fair.

    "Jesus was consistently cheerful, notwithstanding He sometimes drank deeply of the cup of human sorrow.
    He fearlessly faced the realities of existence, yet was He filled with enthusiasm for the gospel of the kingdom.
    But He controlled His enthusiasm; it never controlled him.
    He was unreservedly dedicated to "the Father's business."

    This divine enthusiasm led His unspiritual brethren to think He was beside himself, but the onlooking universe appraised Him as the model of sanity and the pattern of supreme mortal devotion to the high standards of spiritual living.
    And His controlled enthusiasm was contagious; His associates were constrained to share His divine optimism.

    "This man of Galilee was not only a man of sorrows; he was a soul of gladness.
    Always was He saying, "Rejoice and be exceedingly glad."

    But when duty required, He was willing to walk courageously through the "valley of the shadow of death."
    He was gladsome but at the same time humble.

    "His courage was equaled only by His patience.
    When pressed to act prematurely, he would only reply, "My hour has not yet come."
    He was never in a hurry; His composure was sublime.
    But He was often indignant at evil, intolerant of sin.

    He was often mightily moved to resist that which was harmful to the welfare of His children on earth.
    But His indignation against sin never led to anger at the sinner.''
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    Lucy, it just takes a little FAITH.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    "Behold the man!"


    "The unfailing kindness of Jesus touched the hearts of men, but His stalwart strength of character amazed His followers.
    He was truly sincere;
    There was nothing of the hypocrite in Him.

    He was free from affectation; He was always so refreshingly genuine.
    He never stooped to pretense, and He never resorted to shamming.
    He lived the truth, even as He taught it.
    He was the truth.

    He was constrained to proclaim saving truth to His generation, even though such sincerity sometimes caused pain.
    He was unquestioningly loyal to all truth.

    "But the Master was so reasonable, so approachable.
    He was so practical in all his ministry, while all His plans were characterized by such sanctified common sense.
    He was so free from all freakish, erratic, and eccentric tendencies.
    He was never capricious, whimsical, or hysterical.

    In all His teaching and in everything He did there was always an exquisite discrimination associated with an extraordinary sense of propriety.

    "The Son of Man was always a well-poised personality.
    Even His enemies maintained a wholesome respect for Him; they even feared His presence.
    Jesus was unafraid.
    He was surcharged with divine enthusiasm, but He never became fanatical.

    He was emotionally active but never flighty.
    He was imaginative but always practical.
    He frankly faced the realities of life, but He was never dull or prosaic.

    He was courageous but never reckless; prudent but never cowardly.
    He was sympathetic but not sentimental; unique but not eccentric.
    He was pious but not sanctimonious.
    And he was so well-poised because He was so perfectly unified.

    "Jesus' originality was unstifled.
    He was not bound by tradition or handicapped by enslavement to narrow conventionality.
    He spoke with undoubted confidence and taught with absolute authority.
    But His superb originality did not cause Him to overlook the simple gems of truth in the teachings of His predecessors and contemporaries.

    And the most original of His teachings was the emphasis of love and mercy in the place of fear and sacrifice''.
    "He went about doing good."
    "Jesus was an unusually cheerful person, but He was not a blind and unreasoning optimist.
    His constant word of exhortation was, "Be of good cheer."

    He could maintain this confident attitude because of His unswerving trust in His Father and His unshakable confidence in man.
    He was always touchingly considerate of all men because He loved them and believed in them.

    Still He was always true to His convictions and magnificently firm in His devotion to the doing of His Father's will.
    "The Master was always generous.
    He never grew weary of saying, "It is more blessed to give than to receive."
    Said He, "Freely you have received, freely give."

    And yet, with all of his unbounded generosity, He was never wasteful or extravagant.
    He taught that you must believe to receive salvation.
    "For every one who seeks shall receive."

    "He was candid, but always kind.
    Said he, "If it were not so, I would have told you."
    He was frank, but always friendly.
    He was outspoken in His love for the sinner and in His hatred for sin.
    But throughout all this amazing frankness He was unerringly fair.

    "Jesus was consistently cheerful, notwithstanding He sometimes drank deeply of the cup of human sorrow.
    He fearlessly faced the realities of existence, yet was He filled with enthusiasm for the gospel of the kingdom.
    But He controlled His enthusiasm; it never controlled him.
    He was unreservedly dedicated to "the Father's business."

    This divine enthusiasm led His unspiritual brethren to think He was beside himself, but the onlooking universe appraised Him as the model of sanity and the pattern of supreme mortal devotion to the high standards of spiritual living.
    And His controlled enthusiasm was contagious; His associates were constrained to share His divine optimism.

    "This man of Galilee was not only a man of sorrows; he was a soul of gladness.
    Always was He saying, "Rejoice and be exceedingly glad."

    But when duty required, He was willing to walk courageously through the "valley of the shadow of death."
    He was gladsome but at the same time humble.

    "His courage was equaled only by His patience.
    When pressed to act prematurely, he would only reply, "My hour has not yet come."
    He was never in a hurry; His composure was sublime.
    But He was often indignant at evil, intolerant of sin.

    He was often mightily moved to resist that which was harmful to the welfare of His children on earth.
    But His indignation against sin never led to anger at the sinner.''
    Hi Lucy, Yeshua told us that He didn’t even have a place to lay His head (Matt 8:20), and James tell us that Elohim choose the POOR of the world to be RICH in FAITH (James 2:5), why is it that YOU, being rich in this world, cannot be RICH enough in FAITH to FULFILL what the Law of Moses requires of you? Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    failed understanding IAH

    Jesus great uncle Joseph of Arimathea was the richest man in all Israel a tin merchant infact with lots of clout. He was a prominent member of the Sanhedrin
    and
    it was Father who gave me my wealth IAH,= the day I opened my retail doors was the day the Saviour was asked to take control and this massive success was to help others and to share and care for those in need in my district.
    As you try so hard to put down the gospel by mixing it with the law of moses under the direction of Herbert Armstrong - it never works for you as you are always found wanting in divine wisdom

    The Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.
    HE could have laid down on a park bench with a robe over Him = if this is what it means...how about I give you the real meaning in context as that is not the point of His statement.
    He is saying to the scribe, ‘If you want to follow Me, then this world cannot be your home.
    You have to realize that this world is not your home.
    You are just passing through this world.’

    The ‘world’ in the Bible refers to a system, a man made system, which is alienated from God, i.e., it does not obey the goodnews of the Kingdom And Jesus is telling us not to cultivate friendship with the world.
    Although the disciple is in the world, he is not of it. He does not belong to the world.

    now that is the real truth not the kindergarten version you dished out.
    what you fail to fully understand IAH is your ignorance of the Gospel AND ITS MESSAGE as you favour the mixture of covenants and bow to moses = a total NO NO.
    you have to consider your plight IAH rather carefully as you are far from ''rich in faith''
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    Your YOKE of religious slavery needs to be torn from your mind

    and allow the spiritual divine person within to EXPLODE and MANIFEST out from the prison house of lies and misinformation.

    you are in a sincere RELIGIOUS PRISON.
    TRAPPED and die from ignorance from your state of being.
    1660469_1385063128431992_1686017214_n.jpg

    you need to allow your heart to speak because the true spiritual mind is OUR HEART not our head.
    your head is filled with 1/2 truths and all manner of devilish religious junk...GET RID OF YOUR HEAD. [BECOME BEHEADED]
    start allowing your inner man of the Heart - that mighty spiritual being talk [ in his still small voice]

    if the printed word says one thing and your HEART SAYS..................''wooooo there, hold on now, I don't like that idea/act/depravity/cruelty/murder/ etc ''...its the DIVINE mighty SPIRIT man WITHIN [the real you] talking and that religious propaganda machine of SOUL POLUTION is switched off.

    now you can give yourself some tests by allowing YOUR HEART TO JUDGE =so give the written words to YOUR REAL MAN WITHIN to judge not what is written.
    remembering you are a MIGHTY PERFECT SPIRITUAL BEING [ In a human shell] and you know all things.

    the test is
    the OT god is most commonly called “Yahweh” who directly told Moses certain laws and their punishments. [ this is written in the bible = the written word]
    now as you read this drama of law + crime and punishment, you have to ALLOW your PERFECT SPIRITUAL MAN = THE REAL YOU to judge and discern if the FATHER OF JESUS would act in the same way towards his perfect creation.
    it is written in the OT that
    Yahweh states that it’s okay for fathers to sell their daughters into permanent slavery, and he gives rules for what can and can’t be done with her afterwards.
    Now take a moment to ask yourself a simple question, and take note of how you feel when answering it…

    Did the real God= ie= Father of Yeshua = really talk to Moses and tell him it’s okay for people to sell their daughters into bondage and give him instructions on how it should be done?
    You have the written word for your religious head OR you have your perfect spiritual man within to talk to you in his'' still small voice''.
    Did the real God and father of Yeshua really talk to Moses and tell him it’s okay for a slave master to keep another man’s family as property?
    Also
    you need to consider with your heart [ THE TRUE MIND]In this passage, Yahweh condones the beating of slaves as long as it doesn’t get too rough and causes the loss of a body part.
    So the question is…
    Did the real God and Father to Yeshua really talk to Moses and tell him it’s okay to physically abuse slaves as long as body parts aren’t destroyed?

    WILL you allow your perfect spiritual man inside to tell you the CORRECT answer.
    It’s now time to use your God-given divine intellect and divine common sense to draw some conclusions.

    you are A PERFECT DIVINE SPIRITUAL BEING trapped in a human shell, trapped into a human mindset of deception so great few escape from.

    can you?
    it so easy when you know how.
    USE YOUR HEART - its the true mind of your divinity as a child born from THE MOST HIGH Father of all creation~~~~
    and that still small voice that says ''Yea or Nay''.....

    the HEART CONCLUDES ON THIS TEST.
    GIVEN THAT Moses was lying about God instructing him in proper slaving techniques,
    IT STANDS TO REASON THAT Moses was lying about his interactions with God
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    cont... moving outside your vanity box/ life in the Matrix.....................

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    and allow the spiritual divine person within to EXPLODE and MANIFEST out from the prison house of lies and misinformation.

    you are in a sincere RELIGIOUS PRISON.
    TRAPPED and die from ignorance from your state of being.
    1660469_1385063128431992_1686017214_n.jpg

    you need to allow your heart to speak because the true spiritual mind is OUR HEART not our head.
    your head is filled with 1/2 truths and all manner of devilish religious junk...GET RID OF YOUR HEAD. [BECOME BEHEADED]
    start allowing your inner man of the Heart - that mighty spiritual being talk [ in his still small voice]

    if the printed word says one thing and your HEART SAYS..................''wooooo there, hold on now, I don't like that idea/act/depravity/cruelty/murder/ etc ''...its the DIVINE mighty SPIRIT man WITHIN [the real you] talking and that religious propaganda machine of SOUL POLUTION is switched off.

    now you can give yourself some tests by allowing YOUR HEART TO JUDGE =so give the written words to YOUR REAL MAN WITHIN to judge not what is written.
    remembering you are a MIGHTY PERFECT SPIRITUAL BEING [ In a human shell] and you know all things.

    the test is
    the OT god is most commonly called “Yahweh” who directly told Moses certain laws and their punishments. [ this is written in the bible = the written word]
    now as you read this drama of law + crime and punishment, you have to ALLOW your PERFECT SPIRITUAL MAN = THE REAL YOU to judge and discern if the FATHER OF JESUS would act in the same way towards his perfect creation.
    it is written in the OT that
    Yahweh states that it’s okay for fathers to sell their daughters into permanent slavery, and he gives rules for what can and can’t be done with her afterwards.
    Now take a moment to ask yourself a simple question, and take note of how you feel when answering it…

    Did the real God= ie= Father of Yeshua = really talk to Moses and tell him it’s okay for people to sell their daughters into bondage and give him instructions on how it should be done?
    You have the written word for your religious head OR you have your perfect spiritual man within to talk to you in his'' still small voice''.
    Did the real God and father of Yeshua really talk to Moses and tell him it’s okay for a slave master to keep another man’s family as property?
    Also
    you need to consider with your heart [ THE TRUE MIND]In this passage, Yahweh condones the beating of slaves as long as it doesn’t get too rough and causes the loss of a body part.
    So the question is…
    Did the real God and Father to Yeshua really talk to Moses and tell him it’s okay to physically abuse slaves as long as body parts aren’t destroyed?

    WILL you allow your perfect spiritual man inside to tell you the CORRECT answer.
    It’s now time to use your God-given divine intellect and divine common sense to draw some conclusions.

    you are A PERFECT DIVINE SPIRITUAL BEING trapped in a human shell, trapped into a human mindset of deception so great few escape from.

    can you?
    it so easy when you know how.
    USE YOUR HEART - its the true mind of your divinity as a child born from THE MOST HIGH Father of all creation~~~~
    and that still small voice that says ''Yea or Nay''.....

    the HEART CONCLUDES ON THIS TEST.
    GIVEN THAT Moses was lying about God instructing him in proper slaving techniques,
    IT STANDS TO REASON THAT Moses was lying about his interactions with God

    the ANOINTING breaks this yoke of fears and slavery to ALL the control systems, in all areas of existence inc. religious control.
    you will find the REAL YOU,[ the divine spiritual heart man within] CAN STAND against these control systems and win as a mighty warrior in the strength of Christ [ the verb of the anointing]

    348b5972c05cdca6d9b204e53eb9f9f3--prayer-warrior-warriors.jpg

    YES it does take practice, but because it is the truth, an overcomer PREVAILS~~~[GETS THE BETTER OF]

    I WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO SAY to fears evil sickness and all manner of evil imagination, and all manner of DISHARMONY you say................. AMEN... ''you don't have my permission to be in MY PRESENCE''

    Do you understand - the power has to leave when you refuse to give it YOUR permission...[ this is essential knowledge and you must understand it... NEVER CLAIM EVIL as ''mine/my/ours/yours'']
    Because this way you have given'''' it'''' permission to act on your behalf.

    ALLOW NO OTHER outside thought to corrupt you in ''print or in voices of angels'' - your spiritual man within - that still small voice...shall reveal the true choice. NOTE WELL - your human frame needs to LEAVE THIS VANITY REALITY AND LEARN THE KINGDOM REALITY OF LOVE JOY AND PEACE FOREVERMORE.................... here to be able to walk in the image of Christ.
    REMEMBER this vanity realm is not our true home and is filled with religious church/sect/creed/religious traffickers and many many religious predators
    These ''gurus '' are filled with ''good advice, giving you guilt trips, fears and ofcourse and eternal torments awaits, none are righteous, mark missing, ''you must join us '' etc etc and all manner of con tricks prevail.
    so why? do you listen to a world run by predatory, parasitic, criminal and religious elites?

    because you are ignorant and the IGNORANT PERISH.
    CONTROLLED BY RELIGIOUS hypnotic suggestion plays ITS ROLE.
    THE ''RELIGIOUS THEY'' are training you all to see what they want you to see, because by controlling what you perceive, they can influence the decisions you make.
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    Lucy, Yeshua’s WORDS contradict your teachings.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    the ANOINTING breaks this yoke of fears and slavery to ALL the control systems, in all areas of existence inc. religious control.
    you will find the REAL YOU,[ the divine spiritual heart man within] CAN STAND against these control systems and win as a mighty warrior in the strength of Christ [ the verb of the anointing]

    348b5972c05cdca6d9b204e53eb9f9f3--prayer-warrior-warriors.jpg

    YES it does take practice, but because it is the truth, an overcomer PREVAILS~~~[GETS THE BETTER OF]

    I WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO SAY to fears evil sickness and all manner of evil imagination, and all manner of DISHARMONY you say................. AMEN... ''you don't have my permission to be in MY PRESENCE''

    Do you understand - the power has to leave when you refuse to give it YOUR permission...[ this is essential knowledge and you must understand it... NEVER CLAIM EVIL as ''mine/my/ours/yours'']
    Because this way you have given'''' it'''' permission to act on your behalf.

    ALLOW NO OTHER outside thought to corrupt you in ''print or in voices of angels'' - your spiritual man within - that still small voice...shall reveal the true choice. NOTE WELL - your human frame needs to LEAVE THIS VANITY REALITY AND LEARN THE KINGDOM REALITY OF LOVE JOY AND PEACE FOREVERMORE.................... here to be able to walk in the image of Christ.
    REMEMBER this vanity realm is not our true home and is filled with religious church/sect/creed/religious traffickers and many many religious predators
    These ''gurus '' are filled with ''good advice, giving you guilt trips, fears and ofcourse and eternal torments awaits, none are righteous, mark missing, ''you must join us '' etc etc and all manner of con tricks prevail.
    so why? do you listen to a world run by predatory, parasitic, criminal and religious elites?

    because you are ignorant and the IGNORANT PERISH.
    CONTROLLED BY RELIGIOUS hypnotic suggestion plays ITS ROLE.
    THE ''RELIGIOUS THEY'' are training you all to see what they want you to see, because by controlling what you perceive, they can influence the decisions you make.
    Hi Lucy, Yeshua’s WORDS totally contradict what you try to teach us about Moses and what he wrote. Your lack of understanding about what Moses wrote is very evident, as you have no understanding of the Spiritual. Please, try to gain some understanding of the Spiritual, and then you will look differently towards what Moses wrote. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    no no IAH

    it wont wash any more...
    yes it may well have done once on the ignorant church masses led by the unanointed clergy but not any more.

    "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.
    If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property."
    (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
    IAH
    why not explain the super '''''SPIRITUAL SIDE ''''' of the inhumane acts of almost killing a slave by, beating them so bad to their ''''almost death'''''............ as the OT god called Yahweh gave THIS PATTERN TO MOSES...
    I am sure you can give it IAH aka '' THE bros BROWN TWIST''....

    don't you think it ODD
    it's clear that the Hebrews didn't like being slaves at all.
    Yet they didn't mind keeping slaves themselves, once they were able. How could they do this without feeling guilty and hypocritical?
    Does God endorse Hebrew slavery, but condemn Egyptian slavery
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    Lucy, look, you have followed the error of delusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    it wont wash any more...
    yes it maybe have done once on the ignorant masses but not any more.
    Hi Lucy, you have followed the strong delusion of what traditional christianity teaches, and that blinds you to what Yeshua taught His Disciples about what Moses WROTE. If you could ever accept or believe the Knowledge of the Truth about Yeshua's Sacrifice, then you would start to believe Moses, but as it stands, you reject the Blood of Messiah. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    no no IAH

    I reject a cruel god.... when I compare the acts of Yeshua = demonstrating the IMAGE OF HIS FATHER.
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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    Lucy, again, it must be repeated, your desire to have blood save you is evident.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    I reject a cruel god.... when I compare the acts of Yeshua = demonstrating the IMAGE OF HIS FATHER.
    Hi Lucy, you cannot get around your previous posts. You have fully declared how the blood of “Jesus” saves you. Why are you so “bloodthirsty” for salvation? Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    the spiritual bondage of an ANGRY GOD....

    nothing you do pleases this Yahweh- rather like a wicked godmother...
    Fear has kept so many sincere people in bondage; stuck in old paradigms, where there is no spiritual life or maturity.
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    why are they so afraid = because of church indoctrinations,
    however, lets take some scales of those religious eyeballs...A Biblical description of Jehovah landing on a mountaintop describes him this way:

    . .. there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the sound of the trumpet was exceedingly loud; and all of the people that were in the camp trembled.[/quote]
    A trumpet-like sound accompanied many appearances of Jehovah.
    And Moses brought the people out of the camp to meet with God; and they stood at the lower part of the mountain.
    And Mount Sinai was altogether covered with smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the smoke from the fire billowed upwards like the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mountain quaked greatly.
    GENESIS 19:16-19

    If an ancient Hebrew were to observe the rumbling, smoke, and flame of a modern rocketship, the description would not have been much different than this Biblical narrative of Jehovah. A later visit by Jehovah contained the same phenomena:
    And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they moved away and stood far off.
    GENESIS 20:18
    Lest it be assumed that these descriptions might be of a volcano, further sightings reveal that Jehovah was a moving object:
    And the Lord travelled before them [the Hebrew tribes] by day in a pillar of cloud, to lead them the way; by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night

    He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, or the pillar of fire by night, from in front of the people.
    EXODUS 13:21-22

    Exodus 14:24, 40:34-38, and Numbers 19:1-23 contain identical descriptions of Jehovah as he led the Hebrew tribes to the Promised Land.
    The ancient Hebrew eyewitnesses responsible for the above descriptions were not able to get a closer look at Jehovah.
    The Bible points out that no one was permitted to approach Jehovah’s mountaintop landing sites except Moses and a few select leaders.
    Jehovah had threatened to kill anyone else who tried.
    The early Bible therefore contains only descriptions of Jehovah as eyewitnesses saw him from a distance.

    The Gods and Their Flying Machines
    so what did Ezekiel see,?
    ezek.jpg
    made from the bible descriptions
    It was not until much later that one of the Bible’s most famous prophets, Ezekiel, was able to get a closer look and describe Jehovah in greater detail.
    Last edited by LucySmith; 10-11-2017 at 03:24 AM.
    Be determined to come into our resting place in God
    . He gave us His son to give us an abundant life but it can be found only in Him.
    Rest, be still, and know that He is your God.
    The secret is in truly knowing Him and that takes intimacy.

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