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    Yeshua said ''FOLLOW ME'' - QUESTION- is the whole bible a CORRUPTED WORK?

    the church as a whole is well trained to believe and presume the whole bible is '' the WORD OF GOD'' and totally true~~

    Most pew people DARE NOT QUESTION if parts of the whole bible is missing or if it has many man made ideas inserted.
    the response is
    holy horror
    DONT GO DOWN THAT ROAD you reprobate- when I tell of '' the diamonds [ the truth] and the dung [man inserted ideas]'' are there.

    HAS THE BIBLE BEEN FAITHFULLY PRESERVED?
    yet
    what is ''the fruits'' [from the ancient past till now] of LOVE JOY AND PEACE AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN?
    why do people still die IN sin?
    why are women still 2nd classed citizens?
    why are most prayers not answered?
    1 billion souls live as Christians and they live the same lives as to '' the lost''
    * they still die in their sins
    * they still live in poverty and lack
    * they still have sickness and death in their lives
    * the lost and the churched still sit in the Drs surgery and still visit the funeral homes - side by side
    * they still cause strife and destroy each other in wars and hatefilled families.

    if you wish to stop living in the lie of vanity
    and
    Then get rid of that lifestyle of needs and condemnation you need to ask some serious questions of ''WHY IT IS SO''?

    is the bible as a manual tipped towards DEATH AND FAILURE
    rather than
    revealing the TRUE LIFE AND ITS DIVINE REWARDS.
    Mahatma Gandhi 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
    Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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    Yeshua never said the word was corrupted as you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    the church as a whole is well trained to believe and presume the whole bible is '' the WORD OF GOD'' and totally true~~

    Most pew people DARE NOT QUESTION if parts of the whole bible is missing or if it has many man made ideas inserted.
    the response is
    holy horror
    DONT GO DOWN THAT ROAD you reprobate- when I tell of '' the diamonds [ the truth] and the dung [man inserted ideas]'' are there.

    HAS THE BIBLE BEEN FAITHFULLY PRESERVED?
    yet
    what is ''the fruits'' [from the ancient past till now] of LOVE JOY AND PEACE AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN?
    why do people still die IN sin?
    why are women still 2nd classed citizens?
    why are most prayers not answered?
    1 billion souls live as Christians and they live the same lives as to '' the lost''
    * they still die in their sins
    * they still live in poverty and lack
    * they still have sickness and death in their lives
    * the lost and the churched still sit in the Drs surgery and still visit the funeral homes - side by side
    * they still cause strife and destroy each other in wars and hatefilled families.

    if you wish to stop living in the lie of vanity
    and
    Then get rid of that lifestyle of needs and condemnation you need to ask some serious questions of ''WHY IT IS SO''?

    is the bible as a manual tipped towards DEATH AND FAILURE
    rather than
    revealing the TRUE LIFE AND ITS DIVINE REWARDS.
    Lucy,

    Yeshua never said the word was corrupted as you do, and the millions of professing Christians are like you, they do not read the scriptures, and they do not believe them either.

    And that is WHY the transgressors are almost come to the full.

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    Repeat, repeating again Lucy.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    the church as a whole is well trained to believe and presume the whole bible is '' the WORD OF GOD'' and totally true~~

    Most pew people DARE NOT QUESTION if parts of the whole bible is missing or if it has many man made ideas inserted.
    the response is
    holy horror
    DONT GO DOWN THAT ROAD you reprobate- when I tell of '' the diamonds [ the truth] and the dung [man inserted ideas]'' are there.

    HAS THE BIBLE BEEN FAITHFULLY PRESERVED?
    yet
    what is ''the fruits'' [from the ancient past till now] of LOVE JOY AND PEACE AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN?
    why do people still die IN sin?
    why are women still 2nd classed citizens?
    why are most prayers not answered?
    1 billion souls live as Christians and they live the same lives as to '' the lost''
    * they still die in their sins
    * they still live in poverty and lack
    * they still have sickness and death in their lives
    * the lost and the churched still sit in the Drs surgery and still visit the funeral homes - side by side
    * they still cause strife and destroy each other in wars and hatefilled families.

    if you wish to stop living in the lie of vanity
    and
    Then get rid of that lifestyle of needs and condemnation you need to ask some serious questions of ''WHY IT IS SO''?

    is the bible as a manual tipped towards DEATH AND FAILURE
    rather than
    revealing the TRUE LIFE AND ITS DIVINE REWARDS.
    Repeating again Lucy,

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    notice JESUS never wrote anything down personally that is recorded for us to learn

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    the church as a whole is well trained to believe and presume the whole bible is '' the WORD OF GOD'' and totally true~~

    Most pew people DARE NOT QUESTION if parts of the whole bible is missing or if it has many man made ideas inserted.
    the response is
    holy horror
    DONT GO DOWN THAT ROAD you reprobate- when I tell of '' the diamonds [ the truth] and the dung [man inserted ideas]'' are there.

    HAS THE BIBLE BEEN FAITHFULLY PRESERVED?
    yet
    what is ''the fruits'' [from the ancient past till now] of LOVE JOY AND PEACE AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN?
    why do people still die IN sin?
    why are women still 2nd classed citizens?
    why are most prayers not answered?
    1 billion souls live as Christians and they live the same lives as to '' the lost''
    * they still die in their sins
    * they still live in poverty and lack
    * they still have sickness and death in their lives
    * the lost and the churched still sit in the Drs surgery and still visit the funeral homes - side by side
    * they still cause strife and destroy each other in wars and hatefilled families.

    if you wish to stop living in the lie of vanity
    and
    Then get rid of that lifestyle of needs and condemnation you need to ask some serious questions of ''WHY IT IS SO''?

    is the bible as a manual tipped towards DEATH AND FAILURE
    rather than
    revealing the TRUE LIFE AND ITS DIVINE REWARDS.

    from.
    yet HE SAID 'FOLLOW ME''
    how is a believer to do this
    Yeshua choses them to BE QUICKENED into divine life here~
    AND THIS MEANS THE Christ power IN INSERTED, INTO THEIR LIVES AS A WITNESS TO THIS ETERNAL GIFT [zoe life]
    This power is called Christ and is VERB or a doing word and another term is BEGOTTEN

    '' THIS DAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN THEE'' - the Christ power enters in to quicken out from death[vanity/matrix] realm and into the DIVINE KINGDOM REALM OF LOVE JOY GOODWILL AND PEACE abounding in abundant life~~~here and now.

    IT IS A TRAINING CAMP for his people~ and doesn't inc the church groups of divisions and war [Rev 3v 17]

    so
    The Christ power is called the holy spirit.
    and his names and fruit to a believer are as follows.
    guide +Comforter give Counsel + Advocate wisdom: are just a few titles of a DIVINE TEACHER YESHUA told |His believer he would send to us.
    this is not a man,
    but an essence containing the power of LIFE as a spirit of ABUNDANCE
    nor is it part of a trinity of gods.
    YES some parts of the bible are diamonds yes indeed but also some are dung.... and its seems its the DUNG that the church majors in.
    OTHERWISE they would never be what Jesus called them all as
    WRETCHED people
    NAKED people
    BLIND people
    MISERABLE.people

    as per Rev 3 v 17

    why is your life a misery when things go wrong
    why are you naked and blind
    why are you wretched with worry sickness poverty etc -when you are supposed to dwell in the divine kingdom of abundance

    because you believe bible and church lies and have made them your standards of truth
    Mahatma Gandhi 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
    Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    from.
    yet HE SAID 'FOLLOW ME''
    how is a believer to do this
    Yeshua choses them to BE QUICKENED into divine life here~
    AND THIS MEANS THE Christ power IN INSERTED, INTO THEIR LIVES AS A WITNESS TO THIS ETERNAL GIFT [zoe life]
    this power is called Christ and is VERB or a doing word and another term is BEGOTTEN

    '' THIS DAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN THEE'' - the Christ power enters in to quicken out from death[vanity/matrix] realm and into the DIVINE KINGDOM REALM OF LOVE JOY GOODWILL AND PEACE abounding in abundant life~~~here and now.

    IT IS A TRAINING CAMP for his people~ and doesn't inc the church groups of divisions and war [rev 3v 17]

    so
    the Christ power is called the holy spirit.
    and his names and fruit to a believer are as follows.
    guide +Comforter give Counsel + Advocate wisdom: are just a few titles of a DIVINE TEACHER YESHUA told |His believer he would send to us.
    this is not a man,
    but an essence containing the power of LIFE as a spirit of ABUNDANCE
    nor is it part of a trinity of gods.
    YES some parts of the bible are diamonds yes indeed but also some are dung.... and its seems its the DUNG that the church majors in. OTHERWISE they would never be
    WRETCHED
    NAKED
    BLIND
    MISERABLE.

    as per rev 3 v 17
    Lucy,

    Why do you leave out this part below of this verse?

    Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing;

    Is it because this describes your same boasting all the time, so you have to omit this part of the verse?

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    Rev.3:17

    First these people are boasting Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing;

    and know not that thou/you art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

    and know not

    Hmm, now why would they not know it???

    Could it be, that they THINK to themselves that they are ok, and are part of the redeemed, since they are rich in this world's wealth, and they do not have to ask nothing of anyone??

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    First these people are boasting Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing;

    and know not that thou/you art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

    and know not

    Hmm, now why would they not know it???

    Could it be, that they THINK to themselves that they are ok, and are part of the redeemed, since they are rich in this world's wealth, and they do not have to ask nothing of anyone??

    i prove i am rich daily elijahsin

    as I walk in every way possible as HIS true way and narrow path = in HIS DIVINE REALM AND LACK NOTHING
    Hmm, your words and lack nothing; sounds exactly as have need of nothing and know not that thou/you art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: above.

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    what is the true state of these 3 men as examples of their ''tribulations''

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    as you are bible readers

    why do you dwell in sickness?
    why is Mrs Brown lay dying,
    Why is Spying divorce and estranged from most of his family especially his grandbabies
    why is ElijahSin crippled and unemployed and married 2x
    why is IAH [ snippet man] living above his means and is in debt for a aged man.

    some leading question
    s for those bible readers AS THEIR lives appear CURSED rather than blessed with divine POWER LIFE AND LOVE

    ofcourse
    the boys shall bring up their verses [dung] to show how much they enjoy their personal '''TRIBULATIONS''
    ................ they are worthy to be ''TRIBULATED'' and rejoice in it

    lets see
    IAH is watching his ''tribulation'' of his wife dying.
    - did those verses he quotes in each post really work?
    IAH is watching his debts as his ''tribulation'' and working hard for an older man.

    ElijhaSin is crippled with a stick, and unemployable - he loves his'' tribulations''.
    ask
    why wasn't he perfectly healed and put back into the employment scene to help himself and give out to others from his abundant life.

    Spying
    been sexless for years, without a wife he divorced - and a fat belly - must be an awesome'' tribulation''
    his family filled with abuses and strife - a great tribulation.

    ask
    WHY DO THESE PEOPLE AS BIBLE BELIEVERS have so much TRIBULATION when THEY SHOULD BE AND COULD BE WALKING IN THE PRESENCE OF THEIR SAVIOUR daily
    and
    HIM GUIDING AND DIRECTION ALL THEIR ACTION WITH HIS STILL SMALL VOICE.

    well THE ANSWR IS SIMPLE
    they don't hear.
    they read and stay the same as the lost and heathens - no difference at all.

    BTW the proof is....
    the MUSLIMS will have the same ''tribulations'' and they read their books too.

    the MUSLIM MEN all have the same TRIBULATIONS - too...
    Debt

    Death
    Needs never met
    prayers go unawered
    sickness
    etc


    hey- THE MUSLIMS read the ''holy book'' too.

    what is the real truth about bible reading
    what is the real truth about these corrupted verses and MISSING MESSAGES AND JESUS TRUE LIFE SUPPORTING INSTRUCTIONS

    what is SPYING'S PROBLEM?
    WHAT IS ELIJAHSIN PROBLEM?
    WHAT IS MR SNIPPETS PROBLEM?

    they are tainted with the same cursed thing
    their bible reading kills them
    what?
    in nutshell
    The Letter That Killeth
    Why Bible Can't Be Read Literally
    Mahatma Gandhi 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
    Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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    learning about ....''MR CAPTAIN OBVIOUS'' aka THE KEY OF KNOWLEDGE

    The Fourth Century Church of Constantine threw away the Key Of Knowledge that Yeshua warned was necessary to enter into the Kingdom Within.


    In throwing away the Key of Knowledge, and living in accordance with their own manmade doctrines and traditions, Christians have made themselves apostates to the Kingdom of God:

    “Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge; you did not enter in yourselves, and those who were entering in you hindered” (Luke 11:52).
    And thus, while Christians attempt to read the scriptures, they see not!
    And while they hear some of the oracles of the Living Word, their ears are remain deaf.
    And while they attempt to embrace the Living Word, in the manner of the Sadducees and Pharisees they understand it not -- because their hearts have been hardened from the teachings of Yeshua/Jesus and his exampled life


    whom do they follow?
    so they remain with
    NO LOVE
    NO GOODWILL TOWARDS OTHERS
    NO JOY

    Their fruits..................a butchered up life of religious bible readings
    these 3 men have butchered up their lives with bible reading they failed to understand.
    Mahatma Gandhi 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
    Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    the MUSLIM MEN all have the same TRIBULATIONS - too...
    Debt

    Death
    Needs never met
    prayers go unawered
    sickness
    etc


    hey- THE MUSLIMS read the ''holy book'' too.

    what is the real truth about bible reading
    what is the real truth about these corrupted verses and MISSING MESSAGES AND JESUS TRUE LIFE SUPPORTING INSTRUCTIONS

    what is SPYING'S PROBLEM?
    WHAT IS ELIJAHSIN PROBLEM?
    WHAT IS MR SNIPPETS PROBLEM?

    they are tainted with the same cursed thing
    their bible reading kills them
    what?
    in nutshell
    The Letter That Killeth
    Why Bible Can't Be Read Literally
    Sorry for not answering sooner, I had a call from the Holy Land, and could not let it go.

    And Lucy, why do you accuse me of the problems that you have, or otherwise you would not have written it?

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    ''captain obvious'' aka - the key of knowledge is missing

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    The Fourth Century Church of Constantine threw away the Key Of Knowledge that Yeshua warned was necessary to enter into the Kingdom Within.


    In throwing away the Key of Knowledge, and living in accordance with their own manmade doctrines and traditions, Christians have made themselves apostates to the Kingdom of God:



    And thus, while Christians attempt to read the scriptures, they see not!
    And while they hear some of the oracles of the Living Word, their ears are remain deaf.
    And while they attempt to embrace the Living Word, in the manner of the Sadducees and Pharisees they understand it not -- because their hearts have been hardened from the teachings of Yeshua/Jesus and his exampled life


    whom do they follow?
    so they remain with
    NO LOVE
    NO GOODWILL TOWARDS OTHERS
    NO JOY

    Their fruits..................a butchered up life of religious bible readings
    these 3 men have butchered up their lives with bible reading they failed to understand.


    lets us take a case now at point
    MRS BROWN SICK AND DYING=

    HER HUSBAND IAH - has been a churched member for many long years
    studying His law of Moses and other creeds
    sat under Herbert Armstrong teachings and others
    reads the bible and I guess loves jesus in a JUDAS MANNER ofcourse

    now for ''CAPTAIN OBVIOUS'' QUESTION - WHY does he suffer desperation now after his ''faithfull service'' to his god?
    why is he now facd with a tragic event that even
    the MUSLIMS
    THE JAPANESE
    THE CHINESE etc - all suffer from
    LOSS
    LOSS
    LOSS

    WHY ISN'T IAH DIFFERENT
    WHY DOESN'T he radiate the very presence of Yeshua and make the devil and death.....................flee?

    beause he remains a DEAD LETTER MAN
    as do most pew peoples.

    and
    it is very very sad to see such a wasted belief bearing such DIRE RESULTS to others near and dear.
    just a mess

    JESUS WEPT.

    the boys can now trot out all their wee verses in denial
    why
    but satan wins and death and sickness rules over them.
    Mahatma Gandhi 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
    Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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    Your dying slowly too Lucy...

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    lets us take a case now at point
    MRS BROWN SICK AND DYING=

    HER HUSBAND IAH - has been a churched member for many long years
    studying His law of Moses and other creeds
    sat under Herbert Armstrong teachings and others
    reads the bible and I guess loves jesus in a JUDAS MANNER ofcourse

    now for ''CAPTAIN OBVIOUS'' QUESTION - WHY does he suffer desperation now after his ''faithfull service'' to his god?
    why is he now facd with a tragic event that even
    the MUSLIMS
    THE JAPANESE
    THE CHINESE etc - all suffer from
    LOSS
    LOSS
    LOSS

    WHY ISN'T IAH DIFFERENT
    WHY DOESN'T he radiate the very presence of Yeshua and make the devil and death.....................flee?

    beause he remains a DEAD LETTER MAN
    as do most pew peoples.

    and
    it is very very sad to see such a wasted belief bearing such DIRE RESULTS to others near and dear.
    just a mess

    JESUS WEPT.

    the boys can now trot out all their wee verses in denial
    why
    but satan wins and death and sickness rules over them.
    Your dying slowly too Lucy, but the sad part is, that you lie to yourself and say: Why I'm immortal, and I'm gonna live forever, why I can leap tall buildings in a single bound, but really I can't even hop a foot off the ground.

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    the dead letter readers/ the man made inserts/ the missing verse

    missing verse

    Where Is Zacharias?

    Yeshua stated:
    "That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar"
    Mt 23:35
    and
    Lk 11:51
    -- yet,
    the account of Zacharias is missing from our modern Bible.

    The Church Father Origen stated the account which Yeshua made reference to in the above, was removed by many of the scribes of the Church, but could still be found in non-canonical scriptures that had escaped being corrupted.
    [The account of Zacharias and many other crucial teachings have been removed from our Bibles]
    hmmm
    did Saul the apostle Paul who renamed himself
    tell us
    '' there is no man called righteous no not one''
    seems SAUL made a boo boo.. aka .... everyone a born sinner and defiled
    ask?
    was his version and what'' was revealed to him by a ''jesus'' the truth

    from Roms 3 v 10
    As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;
    really????

    perhaps he is the ancient version of a religious joker named Benny Hinns????
    Benny has a ''magic white coat'' and he flings it out and everyone falls down.
    Mahatma Gandhi 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
    Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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    Repeating again about your jilted lover messiah Paul...

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    missing verse

    Where Is Zacharias?



    -- yet,
    the account of Zacharias is missing from our modern Bible.

    The Church Father Origen stated the account which Yeshua made reference to in the above, was removed by many of the scribes of the Church, but could still be found in non-canonical scriptures that had escaped being corrupted.
    [The account of Zacharias and many other crucial teachings have been removed from our Bibles]
    hmmm
    did Saul the apostle Paul who renamed himself
    tell us
    '' there is no man called righteous no not one''
    seems SAUL made a boo boo.. aka .... everyone a born sinner and defiled
    ask?
    was his version and wha t'' was revealed to him by a ''jesus'' the truth


    really????
    Repeating again about your jilted lover messiah Paul that you love to steal his words, then turn around and condemn him, as you are a true hypocrite.

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    If you follow Yeshua, why do you not do as He said to do?

    Lucy,

    Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. Matthew 19:22-23.

    But when the old woman heard that saying, she went away sorrowful: for she had great possessions.

    If you follow Yeshua, why do you not do as He said to do?

    You see, whatever is written in the scriptures that does not agree with Lucy, then she calls it dung.

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