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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    IS THE BIBLE THE DEVIL'S TOOL?
    and
    Is there more than one ''god''

    ABBA - Jesus called His Father MY FATHER....the character of forgiveness, freedom mercy love and peace. = ''MY FATHER''
    who does not change or morph from a petty sadistic killer, into a benovelent Divine Father within 400 years or so.
    [the time between the 2 bible writings]

    the SPIRIT of Truth LEADS a believer into the TRUTH not by the words written, nor, christian brainswashing called traditions, but BY THE CHARACTER REVEALED.
    the character fruits of JESUS DOING THE WILL OF OUR FATHER = IS THE HIGHEST standards of divinity towards men.
    therefore
    any other ''god'' who fails to match this revealed STANDARD OF christ - is not JESUS father nor a god of blessing but of evil and darkness.

    Now i do realise few with understand the revelation from the Truth of the matter
    this began right at the very beginning in Gen 2
    Every tree in the garden was GOOD and could be eaten, and God rested from creation.

    The ''out of the blue'' = a being called THE LORD GOD, appears and says to the man, ''dont eat from the trees of the knowledge of good and evil - or you will die''
    This Lord God told the man, not the woman,

    if you take careful notice here
    ITS THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE THAT makes people perish
    therefore
    if we receive true knowledge we shall never persish

    Yeshua came to bring back the true knowledge that would set men free from ''that perishing knowledge'' that was all they knew
    JESUS then DEMONSTRATED the true knowledge in word and deeds.

    He dismissed the Law of Moses, in many instsances, AND THEN made it far stricter in the sermon on the mount [Math 5] by showing no man could keep these laws and be blameless

    Most people are a BEING of RELIGION, and will fight to hold onto such an evil message
    Other people are called out from this brainwashing, and the truth IS IMPARTED into their lives and grows then they mature into beings LIKE JESUS here.

    yes they are few in number.

    note well
    There are two voices in the Bible
    - the Voice of the God of the True Light, the Divine Being of Purity
    - and the Voice of Darkness.

    When Darkness speaks, It masquerades as the True Light, which has confounded many readers.
    When one reads the Bible with this understanding, many of the inconsistencies and contradictions dissipate.

    the FRUIT of the CHARACTER being presented is our revelation OF THE TRUTH
    He dismissed the Law of Moses, in many instsances, AND THEN made it far stricter in the sermon on the mount [Math 5] by showing no man could keep these laws and be blameless
    Lucy, where in Matthew 5 did Messiah say that, He dismissed the Law of Moses,, as you say, and why do YOU put your own words in Messiah's mouth?

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    you need to study to be approved Elijah

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliyah View Post
    Lucy, where in Matthew 5 did Messiah say that, He dismissed the Law of Moses,, as you say, and why do YOU put your own words in Messiah's mouth?
    JESUS changed the law of Moses in a few places and also REWOTE them into a stricker standand = math 5 - the sermon on the Mount - showing NO PERSON CAN BE BLAMELESS NOR EVEN KEEP the laws given to Moses by angels.
    these people are known as CAPTIVES.

    CAPTIVES TO THE DARKNESS
    The children of Our Father held CAPTIVE to dark powers calling themselves YAH.

    You need to have that veil of blindness removed from those eyes, and when it is you will see gross darkness posing as light and life.
    The 'holy bible'' is far from holy.

    i feel you need to come out from that family called ''the traditional thinking'' posing as the truth.
    why?
    you cannot KEEP the Law of Moses Elijah
    NOR
    can you KEEP the standard of conduct found in the MATH 5 SERMON [no one can]

    = THAT IS a delusion you have fallen under as JESUS HIMSELF SAID.... ''you are not blameless UNLESS you can keep all Mth 5 advices I have given to you this day'
    - impossible.


    this is why 70 ad happened.
    the destruction completed so THE VITAL GOODNEWS OF TRUE REDEMPTION came out via our repentance as per the Prodigal Son story

    THE WHOLE GAME was altered when the NEW COVENANT arrived.
    As God removes the veil that is spread over all nations, the people will be able to recognize truth when they see it.
    The spell of Babylonian witchcraft has weakened noticeably.
    All the years of spiritual warfare that we and others have done are now paying off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    JESUS changed the law of Moses in a few places and also REWOTE them into a stricker standand = math 5 - the sermon on the Mount - showing NO PERSON CAN BE BLAMELESS NOR EVEN KEEP the laws given to Moses by angels.
    these people are known as CAPTIVES.

    CAPTIVES TO THE DARKNESS
    The children of Our Father held CAPTIVE to dark powers calling themselves YAH.

    You need to have that veil of blindness removed from those eyes, and when it is you will see gross darkness posing as light and life.
    The 'holy bible'' is far from holy.

    i feel you need to come out from that family called ''the traditional thinking'' posing as the truth.
    why?
    you cannot KEEP the Law of Moses Elijah
    NOR
    can you KEEP the standard of conduct found in the MATH 5 SERMON [no one can]

    = THAT IS a delusion you have fallen under as JESUS HIMSELF SAID.... ''you are not blameless UNLESS you can keep all Mth 5 advices I have given to you this day'
    - impossible.


    this is why 70 ad happened.
    the destruction completed so THE VITAL GOODNEWS OF TRUE REDEMPTION came out via our repentance as per the Prodigal Son story

    THE WHOLE GAME was altered when the NEW COVENANT arrived.
    Mrs. Smith: The word changed is not even used in Matt.5; and Christ did not say that He changed the commandments, and the Prodigal Son did repent of his lawless rebellion, and its surely evident that you have not repented of your lawless rebellion of God's divine commands, and this is the reason you cannot obey Matthew 5.

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    the wheat and the tares.

    Jesus pointed out that the "God" of the Old Testament was not the God of Light, and He demonstrated it in many ways.
    He showed His disdain for fraud, murder and hypocrisy which the "God" of the Old Testament openly promoted by rewarding those such as Abraham, Sarah, Jacob, Rebecca, Lot and others for lying to kings, performing confidence games, deceiving their siblings, and having incestuous relationships with their children.

    Jesus demonstrated that the "God" of the Old Testament was in fact the Devil — who symbolically signifies the epitome of Darkness.
    The "God" of the Old Testament is a god who rules by fear and condemnation.
    He is such an insecure "God" that he openly declares that he is a jealous god and his acts confirm that he is an abusive and jealous god.

    One of the most horrific things that the beings of Darkness did was to link the New Testament with the Old Testament.
    This joining together allowed the Dark beings to confuse and deceive people into thinking that the "God" of the Old Testament was the father of Jesus.

    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    In fact, Jesus is at war with the "God" of the Old Testament.


    Jesus disassociated Himself from the cruel "God" of the Old Testament.
    The Old Testament "God" YAHS ruled with an iron hand, and employed fear to motivate followers.
    Jesus showed the way of love, truth and compassion every day IN His Ministry to the captive Children of Abba.

    In the book of Acts, we are told that a chief persecutor and murderer of the followers of Jesus was converted to become "Saint" Paul. Evil ones do not convert, they only corrupt.

    Paul's experience on the road to Damascus did not come from the Light.
    Since he could not kill enough of the followers of Jesus to quash the Gnostic movement, he infiltrated it, feigning love for Jesus and conversion to His teachings.
    However, Paul was corrupting the Message and taking over the followers.
    He built a church that was directly opposed to the wishes of Jesus.

    Jesus was crucified because of the Jewish priests, although they used Roman law to do it, and blamed Roman civil authorities for it. Today, were Jesus here, the "Christian" leaders would persecute Him anew, because it is they who have the most to lose.
    Jesus, in His full Power, will tear down their churches, which are mainly built upon the fraudulent teachings of Paul.

    interestingly the Former Presifent of USA was a wise man
    Thomas Jefferson attempted to point to Paul's dark side.
    Jefferson even edited his own Bible from Greek and English versions, which left out all of the Old Testament and everything ever attributed to Paul.

    For doing this, Jefferson was branded as an atheist. In fact, Jefferson was one of the enchristed CHILDREN of Light.
    As God removes the veil that is spread over all nations, the people will be able to recognize truth when they see it.
    The spell of Babylonian witchcraft has weakened noticeably.
    All the years of spiritual warfare that we and others have done are now paying off.

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    2 beings aka'' the deceived'' and those ''made wise to their salvation''

    the MADE WISE UNDERSTAND the deception
    The world of deception is a system of lies and illusions, and when you are in it, it appears so real.
    And, when a conflict between a lie and a truth happens in a human mind, he/she tends to choose the lie because it fits more comfortably in the matrix of lies and illusions that are all around us.

    The whole system is vast and impossible for anyone to completely grasp it in its entirety.
    It is the masterpiece of Satan who has been deceiving the “whole world” (Rev 12:9).


    how is it possible to ''prove'' you are not ''THE DECEIVED''?
    ONLY BY ONE WAY
    WHAT?
    You have been given the divine ability to OVERCOME satan in all your situations you face in this MATRIX LIFE.
    IT IS OUR TESTIMONY as Jesus family of true believers.
    - then HE BECAME THE EMPOWERED BEGOTTEN SON,
    that is the standard set for all His family members in the Royal household and NO other.

    There is NO other way.,
    It is only when you OVERCOME SATAN, [ in the awesome power of the spirit of life] can you be trusted with the UNLIMITED POWER OF Christ.
    [ the same tests as Jesus suffered in the wilderness.]
    As God removes the veil that is spread over all nations, the people will be able to recognize truth when they see it.
    The spell of Babylonian witchcraft has weakened noticeably.
    All the years of spiritual warfare that we and others have done are now paying off.

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    Jesus /The bible

    Jesus, not the Bible, is God’s living and active Word that brings life.
    “You don’t have His word living in you, because you don’t believe the One He sent. You study the Scriptures because you think you have eternal life in them, yet they testify about Me. And you are not willing to come to Me so that you may have life.”- John 5:39-40
    The Christian life is one that is fundamentally rooted in the reality that Jesus Christ is living and active.
    He interacts with us on a day to day basis and desires that we cultivate an intimate relationship with him.
    The more we commune with the Spirit of Christ, the more life and truth we are exposed to and are able to comprehend.
    However, for many Evangelicals, they rely more on the Bible than to work with the living and active Spirit of God within us.
    They fear that following the Spirit could lead to confusion.
    The problem is that a faith that is rooted in the Scripture alone is not sustainable.
    It will dry up and wither on the vine.
    While the Bible has truth veins and authoritative guide for faith and practice, it isn’t the foundation or center of our faith- Jesus is.
    As God removes the veil that is spread over all nations, the people will be able to recognize truth when they see it.
    The spell of Babylonian witchcraft has weakened noticeably.
    All the years of spiritual warfare that we and others have done are now paying off.

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    Where did He say that?

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    JESUS changed the law of Moses in a few places and also REWOTE them into a stricker standand = math 5 - the sermon on the Mount - showing NO PERSON CAN BE BLAMELESS NOR EVEN KEEP the laws given to Moses by angels.
    these people are known as CAPTIVES.

    CAPTIVES TO THE DARKNESS
    The children of Our Father held CAPTIVE to dark powers calling themselves YAH.

    You need to have that veil of blindness removed from those eyes, and when it is you will see gross darkness posing as light and life.
    The 'holy bible'' is far from holy.

    i feel you need to come out from that family called ''the traditional thinking'' posing as the truth.
    why?
    you cannot KEEP the Law of Moses Elijah
    NOR
    can you KEEP the standard of conduct found in the MATH 5 SERMON [no one can]

    = THAT IS a delusion you have fallen under as JESUS HIMSELF SAID.... ''you are not blameless UNLESS you can keep all Mth 5 advices I have given to you this day'
    - impossible.


    this is why 70 ad happened.
    the destruction completed so THE VITAL GOODNEWS OF TRUE REDEMPTION came out via our repentance as per the Prodigal Son story

    THE WHOLE GAME was altered when the NEW COVENANT arrived.
    Lucy, where did Yeshua say, "you are not blameless UNLESS you can keep all Mth 5 advices I have given to you this day?" And I suppose you would also put in Yeshua's mouth, "Man CANNOT live by every word that proceeds forth out of the Mouth of Yahweh Elohim? Do you also claim that He said that? Your teachings and doctrines AGAINST the Law of Moses prove that you think the ONLY way to LIVE is by NOT living by every Word that has come forth out of the mouth of Yahweh Elohim. Lucy, if you do not repent of the foolish teachings and doctrines that come forth out of YOUR mouth, you are going to end up just like my wife and my brother. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    no Ken i got SAVED

    set free and now live as His new creature here + outside of fears and condemnation
    hurrah
    As God removes the veil that is spread over all nations, the people will be able to recognize truth when they see it.
    The spell of Babylonian witchcraft has weakened noticeably.
    All the years of spiritual warfare that we and others have done are now paying off.

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    the real truth is......

    that all men might learn our Fathers one and only everlasting Gospel, the Gospel of love
    - and then preach it!
    and BE IT!
    Love alone can draw all MEN to Jesus
    Only a Calvary love can transform a world gone mad,
    And anyone who is lifting up to a lost and dying world anything other than Jesus and His wonderful love is simply living a wasted life.
    The Love of God must be lifted up IN US.
    The Sons of God are the Sons of Love, for GOD IS LOVE!
    As God removes the veil that is spread over all nations, the people will be able to recognize truth when they see it.
    The spell of Babylonian witchcraft has weakened noticeably.
    All the years of spiritual warfare that we and others have done are now paying off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    that all men might learn our Fathers one and only everlasting Gospel, the Gospel of love
    - and then preach it!
    and BE IT!
    Love alone can draw all MEN to Jesus
    Only a Calvary love can transform a world gone mad,
    And anyone who is lifting up to a lost and dying world anything other than Jesus and His wonderful love is simply living a wasted life.
    The Love of God must be lifted up IN US.
    The Sons of God are the Sons of Love, for GOD IS LOVE!
    And what does the Bible say about habitual liars?

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    the '''divine'' supermarket of religious belief

    the tares on the left
    the wheat on the right
    the counterfeit pretenders
    the true Ekkesia

    you know you are on the ''wrong wide'' when you cannot reproduce the power of Christ in your life - because of your UNBELIEF
    As God removes the veil that is spread over all nations, the people will be able to recognize truth when they see it.
    The spell of Babylonian witchcraft has weakened noticeably.
    All the years of spiritual warfare that we and others have done are now paying off.

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    some have SALVATION some dont

    what is true SALVATION.
    [ it is being set free from all CAPTIVITY]

    Salvation does not consist of obeying certain laws and getting one doctrine or another correct.
    It is not the science of getting better.
    Salvation is a living thing, and it entails being translated from one world into another world.

    Salvation is being saved from something and delivered into something else.

    Being saved means the chains and bondage are ended.
    By and by, one is brought into new realities.
    These realities test and trouble ALL preconceived notions.
    WHY SO?
    IT IS leaving the one world and entering into the next.

    OUR understanding of what constitutes truth continually changes and expands so that our view of the world now becomes into the Christ, which is the anointing verb.
    The anointing only has the true view of things as they are.
    This anointing is what saves a soul and gives us eyes to see what is true.
    As God removes the veil that is spread over all nations, the people will be able to recognize truth when they see it.
    The spell of Babylonian witchcraft has weakened noticeably.
    All the years of spiritual warfare that we and others have done are now paying off.

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    UNDER the old covenant-dead in sin / or the new = as regenerated

    a fine expounder Andrew Murray said

    Oh that we knew how God longs that we should trust Him, and how surely His
    every promise must be fulfilled to those who do so!
    Oh that we knew how it is owing to nothing but our unbelief that we cannot enter into the possession of God's
    promises, and that God cannot -yes, cannot---do His mighty works in us, and for
    us, and through us!
    Oh that we knew how one of the surest remedies for our
    unbelief---the divinely chosen cure for it---is the Covenant into which God has
    entered with us! The whole dispensation of the Spirit, the whole economy of grace
    in Christ Jesus, the whole of our spiritual life, the whole of the health and growth
    and strength of the ekklesia, has been laid down and provided for, and secured in
    the New Covenant.


    I have warned many times ABBA will never work in a person's unbelief.....................TRUST IS A MUST............................ it is no good saying 'I love you Jesus'' and then turn back to the arm of the flesh man = in total unbelief.
    As God removes the veil that is spread over all nations, the people will be able to recognize truth when they see it.
    The spell of Babylonian witchcraft has weakened noticeably.
    All the years of spiritual warfare that we and others have done are now paying off.

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    THE TARES and the WHEAT- 2 beings

    Lazarus was sick and near death.
    His family sent for Jesus in hopes of having him live.
    They urgently sent out the petition to heal their precious brother.
    Jesus could have come immediately and answered their request.

    He did not do this, since it would have brought about a hopeful situation.
    They had hoped that Jesus could heal their brother and their spirits were high in this regard.
    After Lazarus died they were disappointed, for their hope was fast fading.
    After four days, their hope was gone, since Lazarus was rotting in the ground.
    No one can raise a rotting corpse, they thought.
    They felt forsaken and they had forsaken their hope.

    It was then that the Master appeared and raised Lazarus up.
    God chooses this most helpful way of bringing the deliverance of the soul.
    The reason for this is clear.
    The soul and its very puffed up self, is ever on the stretch to prove it has done something to better itself.
    It will pray for days without end, and fast until the bones stick out everywhere, if it can give credit to that for its deliverance.

    the just shall live by faith- a composite picture of ''THE JUST''
    But when the soul has had to forsake itself as unable to achieve the desired result, and has given itself over to death at last, the mighty King arrives when it is too late for the self to do anything about it or take any credit for it.
    The Lord alone is exalted in that day.
    The soul knows very well it had no hand in the matter.
    The forsaking of the self, is the only gate there is to one's entrance into the celestial city.

    THANK YOU YESHUA FOR THIS TRUE REVEALING...
    As God removes the veil that is spread over all nations, the people will be able to recognize truth when they see it.
    The spell of Babylonian witchcraft has weakened noticeably.
    All the years of spiritual warfare that we and others have done are now paying off.

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    the DEAD or the LIVING here aka - A METAMORPHOSIS TO GLORY

    This gospel of the redemption of the body is not a promise of something after death but the proclamation of power and victory over death which is available to all now
    As God removes the veil that is spread over all nations, the people will be able to recognize truth when they see it.
    The spell of Babylonian witchcraft has weakened noticeably.
    All the years of spiritual warfare that we and others have done are now paying off.

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