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    What Is the Law of God for Jesus Ekklesia Today?

    the LAW OF MOSES was totally removed 613 laws gone in 70ad - the whole system made defunct.

    the LAW OF GOD - for the New creature is the LAW OF LIFE and vastly different.
    King James Version, 1 John 3:4 defines sin as "the transgression of the law."
    what law?
    John was referring to the Law of God, not the law of Moses given to him by plural angels.
    acts 15 tells of an apostolic decission.
    "abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood" (verse 20).
    however
    the LAW OF GOD is not really that verse.
    The new way of the Spirit was birthed as THE GOSPEL OF THE GOODNEWS of = ''GLAD TIDINGS, PEACE ON EARTH AND GOOD WILL TO ALL MEN''

    is much of the law of moses transferred into the Kingdom age.
    NO
    the new covenant Believers serve in a "new way" — the way of the Spirit.
    No television preacher has ever read the Bible.
    Neither has any evangelical politician.
    Neither has the pope.
    Neither have I. And neither have you.
    At best, we’ve all read a bad translation—a translation of translations of translations of hand-copied copies of copies of copies of copies, and on and on, hundreds of times.
    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/02/t...ys-294018.html

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    the law of Life in the Spirit.

    is very different from the Law of Moses.
    [the soulish god and laws of using brute force to make one obey and bow as a captive slave -AKA- The "old way" of the written code has been superseded. ]
    THE LAW OF GOD -is now freeing Believers from the condemnation of the law.

    God’s law, in its spirit and intent, exists in Jesus alone.
    He is greater than the law.
    The law kills, and made no one perfect.
    For the Law of Moses could not make anything perfect
    Heb 7 v 19

    The law of Christ with the way of Christ hearkens back to Jesus’ parting words to the disciples before his death.
    Jesus said to them:
    A new command I give you: Love one another.
    As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
    By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.
    (John 13:34–35)

    each day for years i post here and i am attacked and verbally abused by those who are ''dead men''.
    THE TRUTH IS HATED hence the verbal abusers.
    what has happened is men are self taught
    They read the bible without the CHIEF INSTRUCTOR GUIDANCE so they mix and match the law of Moses to the gospel.
    does it upset me, that the devil uses vile mouth people to ridicule =nope.
    No television preacher has ever read the Bible.
    Neither has any evangelical politician.
    Neither has the pope.
    Neither have I. And neither have you.
    At best, we’ve all read a bad translation—a translation of translations of translations of hand-copied copies of copies of copies of copies, and on and on, hundreds of times.
    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/02/t...ys-294018.html

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    THE LAW OF GOD - the acts of Jesus

    The Gospels record how Jesus loved.
    He was not particularly concerned with the externalities of religious observance.
    He was concerned with "the more important matters of — justice, mercy and faithfulness" (Matthew 23:23)
    and "the love of God" (Luke 11:42).
    He ministered to people in their suffering,
    He showed them the love of God through kindness, compassion and mercy, and he forgave their sins.
    To follow the examples and teachings of Jesus that He gave for the church fulfills the law of Christ.
    No television preacher has ever read the Bible.
    Neither has any evangelical politician.
    Neither has the pope.
    Neither have I. And neither have you.
    At best, we’ve all read a bad translation—a translation of translations of translations of hand-copied copies of copies of copies of copies, and on and on, hundreds of times.
    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/02/t...ys-294018.html

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    the christian church never did the acts of Jesus

    they know they are dead as they always pray for a revival.
    they were unable too as they were always a house divided.
    divide means disunity and this leads to disharmony of the pews [church wars]
    So who created the institutionalized church of today
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    the lives of the pew people are a reflection of an abandoned church -

    The real life giving gospel has not been preached to the world since the time of the Apostles
    No television preacher has ever read the Bible.
    Neither has any evangelical politician.
    Neither has the pope.
    Neither have I. And neither have you.
    At best, we’ve all read a bad translation—a translation of translations of translations of hand-copied copies of copies of copies of copies, and on and on, hundreds of times.
    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/02/t...ys-294018.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    the LAW OF MOSES was totally removed 613 laws gone in 70ad - the whole system made defunct.

    the LAW OF GOD - for the New creature is the LAW OF LIFE and vastly different.
    King James Version, 1 John 3:4 defines sin as "the transgression of the law."
    what law?
    John was referring to the Law of God, not the law of Moses given to him by plural angels.
    acts 15 tells of an apostolic decission.
    "abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood" (verse 20).
    however
    the LAW OF GOD is not really that verse.
    The new way of the Spirit was birthed as THE GOSPEL OF THE GOODNEWS of = ''GLAD TIDINGS, PEACE ON EARTH AND GOOD WILL TO ALL MEN''

    is much of the law of moses transferred into the Kingdom age.
    NO
    the new covenant Believers serve in a "new way" — the way of the Spirit.
    Lucy,

    1. Where does Yah'shua Messiah or any of His apostle say or write that, the LAW OF MOSES was totally removed 613 laws gone in 70ad ??

    2. And Lucy, where does Yah'shua Messiah or His apostles say or write that, the law of Life in the Spirit is the law of GOD??

    3. And where and when did Yah'shua Messiah or His apostles say or write that, the Kingdom age or world has already come?

    However, as usual you cannot nor will you answer these questions with the scriptures, because you merely dish out lies and vanity of your own mind to people.

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    Lucy,

    Messiah Himself said speaking of the law and the prophets:

    Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

    For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
    Matthew 5:17-18.

    Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets

    Has heaven and earth passed away yet? No, and neither will the law and the prophets.

    You neither believe Him, and neither do you obey Him either.

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    ''heaven and earth shall passed way'' is not literal

    the bible needs to be rightly divided.
    never looked at like a library book
    some people do this and so get wrong information
    "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." (Matthew 24:35).
    It has been generally believed that Jesus here meant that even though these physical heavens and earth will pass away some day, that is not true about His word which will never pass away.
    Whether this physical earth and solar system ever passes away is not the point in this chapter.
    There is more to this statement of Jesus than meets the eye.
    Jesus has been talking in apocalyptic language, and heaven and earth passing away could mean here just what He has been talking about - that the heaven and earth of the old Jewish order will pass away, and that His word concerning all this is sure to come to pass.
    their captivity and slavery to the law was passing away - and this happened in 70ad

    now aint that the truth
    30000 divisions of christendom is from people who cannot rightly divided under the spirit of life.
    No television preacher has ever read the Bible.
    Neither has any evangelical politician.
    Neither has the pope.
    Neither have I. And neither have you.
    At best, we’ve all read a bad translation—a translation of translations of translations of hand-copied copies of copies of copies of copies, and on and on, hundreds of times.
    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/02/t...ys-294018.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    the bible needs to be rightly divided.
    never looked at like a library book
    some people do this and so get wrong information

    "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." (Matthew 24:35).
    It has been generally believed that Jesus here meant that even though these physical heavens and earth will pass away some day, that is not true about His word which will never pass away.
    Whether this physical earth and solar system ever passes away is not the point in this chapter.
    There is more to this statement of Jesus than meets the eye.
    Jesus has been talking in apocalyptic language, and heaven and earth passing away could mean here just what He has been talking about - that the heaven and earth of the old Jewish order will pass away, and that His word concerning all this is sure to come to pass.
    their captivity and slavery to the law was passing away - and this happened in 70ad

    now aint that the truth
    30000 divisions of christendom is from people who cannot rightly divided under the spirit of life.
    Lucy,

    It most definitely is literally true as the apostle John wrote:

    And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Rev.21:1.

    for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away

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    the law of God is different to the law of Moses

    why 70ad happened
    zippo
    the law of Moses removed never to return

    ''Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled"

    Here He said that the law would not pass away until what?
    Until two other things passed away.
    What were they?
    First, "Till heaven and earth pass;" and, secondly, "till all (the law) be fulfilled."
    We know the law was fulfilled in Christ, and all prophecies relating to Israel fulfilled by 70 A.D.
    Believers all realize that because of this all the law was now over.
    every honest believer in Christ knows this truth
    the law of God far different than Moses and the plural angels
    gig.
    No television preacher has ever read the Bible.
    Neither has any evangelical politician.
    Neither has the pope.
    Neither have I. And neither have you.
    At best, we’ve all read a bad translation—a translation of translations of translations of hand-copied copies of copies of copies of copies, and on and on, hundreds of times.
    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/02/t...ys-294018.html

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    Lucy,

    It most definitely is literally true as the apostle John wrote:

    And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Rev.21:1.

    for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...st+earth&t=KJV

    All of the law and prophets have NOT been completely fulfilled yet either.

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    Lucy,

    It most definitely is literally true as the apostle John wrote:

    And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Rev.21:1.

    for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...st+earth&t=KJV

    All of the law and prophets have NOT been completely fulfilled yet either.

    Now notice this by Messiah.

    Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

    For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.....

    Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

    But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart/mind.
    Matthew 5:17-28.

    Here Messiah teaches the true spiritual intent of the law and commandments, and compare Matthew 5:18 of Messiah above to John in Rev.21:1.

    For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

    Has this happened yet? No!

    Here are more prophecies of scriptures on this too.

    For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. Isaiah 65:17.

    For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD/YHWH, so shall your seed and your name remain. Isaiah 66:22.

    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 2 Peter 3:13.

    See here: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...+heavens&t=KJV

    And Lucy, this truth will be in this thread too.

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    Lucy,

    The word "fulfill" does not mean "abolished".

    Abolished Strong's G2673 καταργέω katargéō, kat-arg-eh'-o; from G2596 and G691; to be (render) entirely idle (useless), literally or figuratively:—abolish, cease, cumber, deliver, destroy, do away, become (make) of no (none, without) effect, fail, loose, bring (come) to nought, put away (down), vanish away, make void.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=G2673&t=KJV

    Strong's G4137 fulfil- plēroō πληρόω plēróō, play-ro'-o; from G4134; to make replete, i.e. (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.:—accomplish, × after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full (come), fully preach, perfect,

    http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=G4137&t=KJV

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    Lucy,

    Messiah Himself said speaking of the law and the prophets:

    Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

    For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
    Matthew 5:17-18.

    Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets

    Has heaven and earth passed away yet? No, and neither will the law and the prophets.

    You neither believe Him, and neither do you obey Him either.

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    Here below is about a 10 minute teaching on this by 119 you can watch yourself.

    Abolish or Fulfill? - 119 Ministries

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VOqcpt6_BY

    But I doubt that Lucy will watch it, because it corrects her lie.

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    Smile

    Lucy, do really think that I do not know what you were trying to do?

    You were trying to get my posts of this truth redirected to your other thread, however, your trick wont work.

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