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    ''THE OVERCOMER'' and their friend ''JESUS the christ'' as the Begotten anointed

    to Overcome = to get the better of.
    [expounded by dads day off]

    the OVERCOMER BECOMES THE BEGOTTEN sons and daughters of The Father Himself.
    ''the BEGOTTENS''

    But be of good cheer:
    WHY?
    I have overcome the world.
    The pronoun is strongly emphatic, "I have Myself overcome the world."
    He speaks of the assured victory as though it were already accomplished.
    (See Note on John 16:11 and John 12:31; John 13:31.)
    Here is the reason why they should take courage and be of food cheer.
    He is the Captain of their salvation, and has already won the victory.
    The enemies they fear, the world in which they have tribulation, are already captives following in the Conqueror's train.
    They themselves have pledges of victory in and through His victory.



    TO THE OVERCOMER IN JESUS - the devil is a defeated foe.
    WHY?
    The power of the prince of this world SATAN is overcome by the opening of the kingdom of heaven to HIS Believers.
    The King of Righteousness is in victory seated upon His throne, and claims mankind, whose nature He has assumed and whom He has redeemed, to be free from sin and servants of righteousness.

    THE 30 FOLD THE 60 FOLD THE 100 FOLD.
    TO THE 100 FOLD "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you.''
    aka =THE OVERCOMER/BEGOTTEN of Abba.
    [ conformed into the Image of their Saviour empowered by the verb ''christ'']

    part of the ''mystery'' all the earthly religious organizations known as our institutions of religious learning ARE THE WORKS OF satan not of God!
    "While men SLEPT, an enemy sowed the tares !"
    And again He excoriated our clergy's predecessors:
    WOE, unto you, Lawyers: for you have taken away t h e Key of Knowledge:
    you entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in YOU HINDERED !" Luke 11:52
    : "'Come out of her, My people,' so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
    Rev 18
    the church is filled with sin and plagues. namely death.

    TO THE OVERCOMER
    Jesus calls them out and UNLEARNS them from pre-ordained deception and bible misconceptions!

    JESUS THEN TEACHES HIS OVERCOMER THAT.............
    HE lived the life of an 'OVERCOMER'.
    And He set Himself forth as being THE WAY.
    True, He also proclaimed Himself as the 'DOOR'. THRU HIM we enter.
    The "way" is the path, which we travel: IT IS OUR MODE OF LIFE.
    Wherefore, when Christ proclaimed Himself as "THE WAY" - He meant that we must live as He lived.

    THE FOLDS.
    'the Way' here on earth is marked 30, 60, or 100 fold.
    THE 30 miss what the 60 understand and the 60 miss what the 100 understand,
    The 30 and 60 are EARTH-based numbers and have nothing to do with 'HEAVEN'!

    The 100-fold only can come into His presence.
    yes sir.!!! TO WALK IN HIS PRESENCE removes the earthly mindset and religious deception.
    DAILY THE OVERCOMER WALKS IN HIS PRESENCE.

    THE 30 FOLD
    LACK 70 to make it to the 100.
    what is wrong with the 30 -they live within their 'soul power deception realm''
    they have received no 'eternal life' for either soul or body .

    THE 60 FOLD
    A SAD GROUP [''the almost made it'' folk]
    The 60-fold lack 40 to be the 100-fold.
    It is the number of fruitfulness in its SOUL 'power'.
    they rely upon the all the systems IN vanity.
    40 is the wilderness number of testing, wherein those who were found worthy ENTERED THE LAND OF PROMISE.
    But observe the difference:
    these 60-fold LACK that fruitfulness Therefore they do not enter the Land of Promise.
    they are the green leaves in the place of the true fruit.
    The Saviour said to Nicodemus:
    "I have told you of earthly things and you believe not:
    HOW then could you believe if I were to tell you of heavenly things?" (John 3:12)
    you cannot tell the RELIGIOUS church HEAVENLY THINGS nor THE 30/60 fold.
    they will not believe you as they are earth bound


    Yet the KEYS are clearly set forth in scripture =-the OVERCOMER is shown those keys.
    Never let the enemy cause you to doubt your calling.
    He will try to bring you down by these things.
    Use your weapons and he will flee from you.
    Some of you encounter opposition.
    There will always be the ignorant and the accusers, but I will remove them off from before your face.

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    the keys given to the OVERCOMER

    ''KEYS OF THE KINGDOM''
    the OVERCOMER HAS A PERSONAL TESTIMONY [like the Saviours] on HOW THEY OVERCAME satan

    HOW?
    BY THE TRUE DIVINE KNOWLEDGE AND HOW TO USE IT to attain to John 10 v 10

    John 10:10
    10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;
    I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
    YOU LEARN WHO IS the thief that kills and that destroys =aka= the character and the fruit
    why?
    to become HIS FRUIT INSPECTOR.
    This is ONE OF the 1st lessons THE OVERCOMING EKKLESIA is taught
    WHAT?
    FRUIT INSPECTIONS.
    [ never from the lips but from the life lived out before all men]

    THE GREEN LEAVES SHOW FORTH THEIR FRUITLESSNESS and those under curses by not being filled with divine life and true blessing here and now.
    [verse quoters and mockers and others who live a carnal-minded life of religious vanity]

    Jesus instructs His people how to observe THE FRUITS of all ''proclaimers''
    why is the lesson so important

    so as not to be deceived by knowing '''';;'who;'';;;; is............... ''the anti-christs''....................

    anti-christs [plural] includes all ''believers'' with the exception of the 100 fold Ekklesia.
    what is the real deep problem here???
    the rest, cannot OVERCOME satan, because of their UNBELIEF AS THEY PLACE THE SYSTEMS OF THIS WORLD before the Gospel of the Living Son.
    [Jesus is only their 2nd best option.]
    why?
    the system of vanity is too powerfull to overcome UNLESS A PERSON HAS BEEN IMPARTED into the empowerment of the christ anointing
    Never let the enemy cause you to doubt your calling.
    He will try to bring you down by these things.
    Use your weapons and he will flee from you.
    Some of you encounter opposition.
    There will always be the ignorant and the accusers, but I will remove them off from before your face.

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    Well Lucy, more cheap talk, to use your words.

    And he that overcometh, and keepeth my/Messiah's works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: Rev.2:26.

    But, that rules you out, because you don't even believe in ANY WORKS, and certainly not Messiah's own works as He did.

    To him/her that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Rev.3:21.

    Messiah is NOT going to do the overcoming for you in your stead, as each person has to do the overcoming.

    He/She that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

    But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
    Rev.21:7-8.

    This also rules you out, because you are unbelieving of Messiah and His apostles words, and of course you love fabricating your lies about others too.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...ercometh&t=KJV

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    when dealing with the mentally ill zealots say- "I'm sorry you feel that way."

    when someone speaks to you in an abusive way, they are trying to control your behavior.
    They want you to react by getting upset.
    They are trying to force you to pay attention to them and to give them power.
    Your response may be to defend yourself and to try to control them, in turn.
    Don't.
    The best thing you can do is to turn your attention to Jesus and keep control of your own behavior.
    •Don't let yourself be dragged into an argument or an ugly scene.
    •Do not defend yourself against accusations and insults.
    That would be taking them seriously.

    Say,

    "I'm sorry you feel that way."

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    Never let the enemy cause you to doubt your calling.
    He will try to bring you down by these things.
    Use your weapons and he will flee from you.
    Some of you encounter opposition.
    There will always be the ignorant and the accusers, but I will remove them off from before your face.

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    THEY OVERCAME satan

    amen
    Jesus trains up His Ekklesia on these vital lessons and shows His people exactly HOW He was able to overcome satan in every way.
    producing
    THE KEYS into the Kingdom = by giving His knowledge to His People so they don't perish [die in sin]

    Ofourse these vital lessons are constant until ALL our UNHOLY STRONGHOLDS within our soulish deceived old man have been fully removed
    Then and only then
    THE OVERCOMER BECOMES THE '''BEGOTTEN'' son or daughter FILLED with the fullness of christ [ the action verb of empowerments] - this is the person is now CONFORMED TO THE SAME IMAGE AS THEiR SAVIOUR

    Very few people make it to this position of the 100fold anointing.
    This position is found in Rev. 3 v 21.

    THRONE SITTERS
    Revelation 3:21
    21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with Me in My throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with My Father in His throne.
    AS JESUS OVERCAME - SO DO HIS EKKLESIA-to make them the same image as HIMSELF
    Never let the enemy cause you to doubt your calling.
    He will try to bring you down by these things.
    Use your weapons and he will flee from you.
    Some of you encounter opposition.
    There will always be the ignorant and the accusers, but I will remove them off from before your face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    when someone speaks to you in an abusive way, they are trying to control your behavior.
    They want you to react by getting upset.
    They are trying to force you to pay attention to them and to give them power.
    Your response may be to defend yourself and to try to control them, in turn.
    Don't.
    The best thing you can do is to turn your attention to Jesus and keep control of your own behavior.
    •Don't let yourself be dragged into an argument or an ugly scene.
    •Do not defend yourself against accusations and insults.
    That would be taking them seriously.

    Say,

    "I'm sorry you feel that way."

    verbally_abusive_spouse_l1.jpg
    Lucy, you sure don't keep control of your behavior, you can't even overcome your lying and false accusing of others.

    Is this a picture of you or your husband, and which one of you is always saying, "I'm sorry you feel that way"?

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    when dealing with the mentally ill zealots say- "I'm sorry you feel that way."

    religious abusing from the mentally ill.


    when someone speaks to you in an abusive way, they are trying to control your behavior.
    They want you to react by getting upset.
    They are trying to force you to pay attention to them and to give them power.
    Your response may be to defend yourself and to try to control them, in turn.
    Don't.
    The best thing you can do is to turn your attention to Jesus and keep control of your own behavior.
    •Don't let yourself be dragged into an argument or an ugly scene.
    •Do not defend yourself against accusations and insults.
    That would be taking them seriously.

    Say,
    "I'm sorry you feel that way."


    the mentally ill abusers are bullies
    Never let the enemy cause you to doubt your calling.
    He will try to bring you down by these things.
    Use your weapons and he will flee from you.
    Some of you encounter opposition.
    There will always be the ignorant and the accusers, but I will remove them off from before your face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    when dealing with the mentally ill zealots say- "I'm sorry you feel that way."


    when someone speaks to you in an abusive way, they are trying to control your behavior.
    They want you to react by getting upset.
    They are trying to force you to pay attention to them and to give them power.
    Your response may be to defend yourself and to try to control them, in turn.
    Don't.
    The best thing you can do is to turn your attention to Jesus and keep control of your own behavior.
    •Don't let yourself be dragged into an argument or an ugly scene.
    •Do not defend yourself against accusations and insults.
    That would be taking them seriously.
    45880284-young-asian-boy-being-physically-abused-by-someone-older-than-him.jpg
    Say,
    "I'm sorry you feel that way."
    when dealing with the mentally ill zealots
    Hmm, do you really like speaking of yourself like that? I did not know that you were a mentally ill zealot, well, that would explain you always repeating the same threads over and over again too.

    PS: Lucy, and I'm really sorry you feel that way, but it's simply the truth.

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    i am sorry you feel that way

    zero tolerance of the religious bullies
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    Never let the enemy cause you to doubt your calling.
    He will try to bring you down by these things.
    Use your weapons and he will flee from you.
    Some of you encounter opposition.
    There will always be the ignorant and the accusers, but I will remove them off from before your face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    Lucy, shame on your husband for bulling you that way. Or, is that you doing your husband like that?

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    i am sorry you feel that way

    i am sorry you feel that way
    zero tolerance of the religious bullies
    Never let the enemy cause you to doubt your calling.
    He will try to bring you down by these things.
    Use your weapons and he will flee from you.
    Some of you encounter opposition.
    There will always be the ignorant and the accusers, but I will remove them off from before your face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    i am sorry you feel that way
    zero tolerance of the religious bullies
    I really don't blame you Lucy, maybe you and your husband should see a doctor for your troubles.

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    The overcomer... Rev 3 v 21

    WITH the authority to rule and to reign with Jesus. amen

    this Laodicean church is a MAN RULED CHURCH -AKA- THE PAULINE COUNTERFEIT the church adored.
    THIS SYSTEM IS A KILLER.
    the indifferent church.
    JESUS calls His people OUT from this system and replaces it with His voice to His Ekklesia

    it is a trap.
    Satan wants to trap people in a church.
    What does a person do when he is setting a trap?
    Does he just set the trap out in the open and say, “Hey, come on; get in this thing”?
    No!
    He camouflages it, hides it, puts things over it.
    And so, you are caught before you know it.
    You did not intend to get in that trap.
    You really did not want to make that mistake;
    but,
    somewhere along the line, you took your eyes off of Jesus.



    You followed Saul into his own personal Pauline Christianity and are ALWAYS plagued by the sins that kill you.
    Never let the enemy cause you to doubt your calling.
    He will try to bring you down by these things.
    Use your weapons and he will flee from you.
    Some of you encounter opposition.
    There will always be the ignorant and the accusers, but I will remove them off from before your face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    WITH the authority to rule and to reign with Jesus. amen

    this Laodicean church is a MAN RULED CHURCH -AKA- THE PAULINE COUNTERFEIT the church adored.
    THIS SYSTEM IS A KILLER.
    the indifferent church.
    JESUS calls His people OUT from this system and replaces it with His voice to His Ekklesia

    it is a trap.
    Satan wants to trap people in a church.
    What does a person do when he is setting a trap?
    Does he just set the trap out in the open and say, “Hey, come on; get in this thing”?
    No!
    He camouflages it, hides it, puts things over it.
    And so, you are caught before you know it.
    You did not intend to get in that trap.
    You really did not want to make that mistake; but, somewhere along the line, you took your eyes off of Jesus.

    you followed saul into his own personal Pauline Christianity and are plagued by the sins that kill you.
    Hmm, like you used to do, and still use his words and phrases, then you complain about him like a jilted lover.

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    Only jesus can bring you out, the system is too powerful for you to leave

    THE Pauline entrenched system, is acceptable as the truth
    woe
    The 13th masonic apostle imposter wins.~~~~~
    Who notices this ONLY THOSE JESUS HAS '''CALLED OUT.''

    Why do church people still DIE IN SIN?


    HOW MANY TIMES IS THE WORD FORGIVENESS USED IN THE N.T.
    146 times
    REALLY??

    IF YOU ARE FORGIVEN = WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
    YOUR SIN WONT BE HELD AGAINST YOU?
    yes/no/maybe?

    Well why do the pews die at a rate of 2000 every 12 mins ACCORDING TO STATS?
    THEY WERE NEVER FORGIVEN AND SO DIE IN SIN
    WHY WEREN'T THEY forgiven?

    IF YOU EXPECT TO DIE = YOU ARE NOT FORGIVEN.
    YOU REMAIN GUILTY AS A SINNER and THEN charged for a crime of SIN.
    Never let the enemy cause you to doubt your calling.
    He will try to bring you down by these things.
    Use your weapons and he will flee from you.
    Some of you encounter opposition.
    There will always be the ignorant and the accusers, but I will remove them off from before your face.

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