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    THE REVEALING OF THE ''GOOD NEWS'' IS TO ASK = was it because?

    All ''the bad news'' needed to be removed~~~

    could the ''good news'' elimate all the past'''' bad'''' news?

    So
    what makes the good news - good?
    TO PUT THIS VERY SIMPLY
    It came to undo all the bad news.
    SO
    WHAT WAS THIS good news that altered the BAD NEWS?
    COULD IT HAVE BEEN = That old, awful, oppressive tyrant has been undone AND unseated.
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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    could this GOOD NEWS take away our misinformation. ?

    and could the GOOD NEWS reveal truths once concealed that are coming out into the light of day and the people are becoming aware of many secrets which were previously completely unknown and many traditional ideas exposed as lies.
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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    The bad news is

    THE GREATEST DEFILEMENT a person can suffer is ''''DEATH'''''

    but

    THE GOOD NEWS is HOW TO ESCAPE our personal DEFILEMENT AND ITS DEADLY VIRUS~~~
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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    the GOOD NEWS must have come AFTER the BAD NEWS

    if THE GOOD NEWS CAME - IT MEANS THE BAD NEWS WAS IN PLACE - THE WORLD LIVED IN BAD NEWS.
    why?
    IT BEGAN from the beginning when man was PLACED [ TAKEN OUT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND PUT INTO THE GARDEN]
    THE Lord God, removed man from somewhere else and then placed him in Eden
    who is the lord god =Yahweh.?

    THE BAD NEWS IS
    the knowledge of good and evil became, THE FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE.
    Why was it forbidden to learn WHEN Freedom’s origin is knowledge
    This knowledge when studied leads to revelations of the world you live within.

    a character question as ''their fruits''
    does this "LORD God’s" behaviour , in some ways coincide with the modern day global elite and what their policies? [bondage and control]
    yes//no/maybe?
    John 8:44;
    Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.
    When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
    The church’s interpretation of the bible is wrong.
    Pastors in Church’s across the land are teaching the lies they were taught.
    JESUS Father would never found a social system that deprives His creation of knowledge keeping them in Bondage. = A SOCIETY FOUNDED AND BASED IN BAD NEWS
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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    figuring out why? is there a NEED TO BE A CONTROLLER AND CONTROL ALL OTHERS

    THE KNOWING OF ''GOOD AND EVIL'' WAS CLASSED AS FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE.
    WHY SO?
    WHEN IT IS CLEARLY STATED '' it is from the LACK OF KNOWLEDGE people PERISH'' [ physically DIE]

    Now I realise most people think of death as a friend
    - but ask anyone who is normal ''do you wish to die today'' and they would be shocked to think they may die so soon!
    why is death painted as a FRIEND rather than AN ENEMY, that its declared to be!
    FACT!

    NOTICE
    ADAM WAS REMOVED from where he once lived into another place called Eden to tend the garden. [working ETHIC is ESTABLISHED tending this garden]
    ask
    why does he have to work???
    like everyone does today.

    THE ELOHIM did not remove him, however this Lord God Yahweh did.
    and then
    PLACED CONDITIONS, that were never there in the ''other place'' where Adam lived prior to him being ''placed in Eden to work''.
    the trees, plants and herbs were all eatible in his other place but now 2 trees suddenly became UNEATIBLE for him

    the TREE OF the KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL being 1 such a tree.

    Genesis 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of GOOD AND EVIL.
    but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.
    The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.
    SHOULD ALARM BELLS START TO RING HERE
    so now we have A LORD YAHWEH giving orders to the worker he removed from 1 area into another.
    SOUND FAMILAR???

    When Adam was living in the '''other place'' he was a child of the creator, having the ''rights'' of a child under their FATHER'S care~
    But is UPROOTED by lord Yahweh and removed to a place called Eden and given conditions of what TO eat and how TO work [ by tending] and threatened with death!

    what dies this SOUND LIKE TO YOU????

    NOW WE CAN DO ALL MANNER OF RELIGIOUS FANCY FOOT WORK HERE......
    the story unfolds as
    The man Adam was removed from his home and placed as a worker in Eden, where conditions were laid down that if disobeyed would result in his death

    what does this sound like to you in modern terms?
    any ideas???

    how about
    CREATE A PROBLEM, people live within the PROBLEM, then YOU [THE CREATOR IF THE PROBLEM] OFFER YOUR SOLUTION
    - '''ORDER OUT OF CHAOS'' - A FREEMASON MOTTO
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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    the BAD news was THE GARDEN OF EDEN

    the 3 words of ''garden of eden'' has hidden inside of it 4 new words
    'The danger of need.'

    ''planted man in eden'' - has 3 words hidden
    '' i am dependent''


    the Garden held a danger, as it made the man dependant,~? as a TRAPPED captive even before ''''he sinned''''..
    CAPTIVE TO WHO?
    upon the lord god elohim yahweh~~~ [rather than the ELOHIM -THE WORD] as John 1 v 1 tells us our creator Elohim.

    Humanity refuses to see the obvious ???
    WHAT
    infiltrated by negative entities with malevolent vicious intent towards THE CHILDREN CREATED PERFECTLY IN THE IMAGE OF THE ELOHIM = THE WORD
    FROM day one the control freaks began = those who assumed control over all systems [ the garden] i.e. political, financial, educational, religious pharmaceutical, and so on. etc
    Our understanding of spirituality is so simple and stuck in its infancy;
    it is filled with dogma and twisted truth.

    In history it is well known that during every war and revolution the first thing they did is burn the knowledge base libraries and books so that they can rewrite their lies into history and religions.
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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    the BAD NEWS IS

    religious thinking has played an important role in violent behavior.
    the most important violent behaviors that we see in the news are motivated by purposes of domination, greed and religious beliefs.


    The point I want to make is that the most joyful and healthy attitude in life is to experience love, forgiveness and lightheartedness that we have lost.
    In my opinion, a loving BELIEVER IN CHRIST , radically engaged in the principles of unconditional love, forgiveness and presence, cannot keep his-her attention in Moses ideology at all.

    non-loving thinking and the law of moses walk hand in hand, so please allow me to reveal a secret few know that is
    The unloving moralistic judgment seeded into our minds by the OT YAHWEH for governing and ruling over people has an effect on our consciousness, emotions and health,
    you will also find out that we cannot mix the OT paradigm with the one of the NT without losing the pureness, beauty and benefits of the latter.


    remember that Mathew wrote in Greek and used the word θεῷ (theos) which doesn’t mean Jehovah as the word theos is used also for the Greek gods and the corresponding word for god or gods in ancient Hebrew is Elohim not Yahweh
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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    Hos 4:6, how do you read it Lucy?

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    ''My People perish [die] from LACK OF KNOWLEDGE''
    BY BEING PLACED in The Garden of Eden this was clearly one for dependence and CONTROL.
    QUESTION
    "Were people deprived of knowledge in the Garden of Eden like you are today?"
    If so, who was at the heart of the deprivation and why ?
    Why was it forbidden to learn?
    Both Oppression and Dependence are products of Bondage.
    Bondage is slavery-Jesus came to set the captives free
    Lucy, your tag line is based upon Hos 4:6, how is it that you can quote "My People perish [die] from LACK OF KNOWLEDGE," and then "tell" us over and over again to forget and reject the Law which Elohim gave to Moses through the "disposition" of Angels?:

    Hos 4:6 “My people have perished for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I reject you from being priest for Me. Since you have forgotten the Law of your Elohim, I also forget your children.

    How is it that you plan on LIVING IF you lack the knowledge, wisdom, and understanding in the keeping and doing of Elohim's Law:

    Deut 4:6 So keep and do them (the commands and judgments found WITHIN the Law of Moses), for that is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the peoples who will hear all these statutes and say, ‘Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.’

    Yes Lucy, Israel did not REMAIN a wise and understanding people as they rejected and forsook the Law of Moses (just like you "tell" us we should do), and they perished for their LACK of KNOWLEDGE, so are you going to follow in their footsteps? Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    wrong again Ken

    I said look for the diamonds amid the dung and become a fruit inspector.

    look at the character who created a cruel law no man can keep and that is opposite to the CHARACTER of Jesus and His Father.
    AS FOR THE VERSE IN HOSEA AINT IT THE REAL TRUTH~~~~~ a diamond

    as for this verse you posted

    Deut 4:6 “So keep and do them (the commands and judgments found WITHIN the Law of Moses), for that is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the peoples who will hear all these statutes and say, ‘Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.’
    well
    2,000,000 people /6,000,000 [estimated OFCOURSE] = did not become wise nor an understanding people as all of that generation died in the wilderness but for 1 man CALEB as there is no death recorded against his name

    no man could keep 613 laws as one unit so if a man has no power to keep the whole 613 laws, why does God Yahweh require it of him?
    Is this justice?

    Hebrews
    The law is weak, useless and makes nothing perfect. (Hebrews 7:18-19)

    God has found fault with it and created a better covenant, enacted on better promises. (Hebrews 8:7-8)

    It is obsolete, growing old and ready to vanish. (Hebrews 8:13)

    It is only a shadow of good things to come and will never make someone perfect. (Hebrews 10:1)

    truth out
    perhaps the real reason is = the lord Yahweh made up weak and useless laws so all men died from its imperfections



    The law is weak, useless and makes nothing perfect. (Hebrews 7:18-19)


    did you make up useless and weak laws for your children to obey ken?
    you need to fully re assess your false opinions ken and walk away from all traditional thinking,
    Last edited by LucySmith; 06-16-2018 at 04:37 PM.
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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    the BAD NEWS

    THE lord god Yahweh planted the man Adam in a garden and gave his worker rules
    '' don't do this or this will happen''

    so Adam is the worker
    NO wait!!!!!
    ADAM HAS BECOME THE CONTROLLED WORKER who needed a ''superior controller''

    so if we venture further into ''the controlled'' we find this lord YAHWEH rules of control are as such
    the BAD NEWS IS
    The law is weak, useless and makes nothing perfect. (Hebrews 7:18-19)
    Lord Yahweh made weak and useless laws not only in the Garden but again through Moses TO THE JEWS.
    [there is a contradiction here too, its the lord Yahweh or plural angels who stuffed up????]

    THEN the GOODNEWS
    God has found fault with it and created a better covenant, enacted on better promises. (Hebrews 8:7-8)
    that set the captive free.

    the age old formula of control is
    #1-created a problem,
    #2-no one can fix,
    #3-supply the solution...……………….. same formula the freemasons use

    = perfect control for the captives

    now wait
    ''GOD FOUND FAULT with this method of rulership''
    so enacted THE GOOD NEWS AGENDA
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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    Lucy, how did the Law change, and who was at fault?

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    I said look for the diamonds amid the dung and become a fruit inspector.

    look at the character who created a cruel law no man can keep and that is opposite to the CHARACTER of Jesus and His Father.
    AS FOR THE VERSE IN HOSEA AINT IT THE REAL TRUTH~~~~~ a diamond

    as for this verse you posted


    well
    2,000,000 people /6,000,000 [estimated OFCOURSE] = did not become wise nor an understanding people as all of that generation died in the wilderness but for 1 man CALEB as there is no death recorded against his name

    no man could keep 613 laws as one unit so if a man has no power to keep the whole 613 laws, why does God Yahweh require it of him?
    Is this justice?

    Hebrews
    The law is weak, useless and makes nothing perfect. (Hebrews 7:18-19)

    God has found fault with it and created a better covenant, enacted on better promises. (Hebrews 8:7-8)

    It is obsolete, growing old and ready to vanish. (Hebrews 8:13)

    It is only a shadow of good things to come and will never make someone perfect. (Hebrews 10:1)

    truth out
    perhaps the real reason is = the lord Yahweh made up weak and useless laws so all men died from its imperfections



    The law is weak, useless and makes nothing perfect. (Hebrews 7:18-19)


    did you make up useless and weak laws for your children to obey ken?
    you need to fully re assess your false opinions ken and walk away from all traditional thinking,
    Lucy, how did the Law change, and why did it change? What did Elohim find fault with for changing the Law? And what laws are written on your heart and put into your mind? Do you know the answer to any of these questions, or is it unimportant to you? Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah determines those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses. So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    The worker had become a captive to rules

    And orders when planted in Eden!
    Being planted from one location as a man created as an image of
    his creator!
    This man was taken out from his former place to be uprooted into another place without his consent!
    The man became a worker under an Employer who decreed death to the worker if his rule was disobeyed!
    The man had now become a captive to his employer
    Is this same system in vogue today
    Called WORKIN FOR THE MAN!
    Why was the man Adam reduced to captive worker when he never needed to be replanted nor employed in the first place!
    Fema camps relocate people as do concentration camps
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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    ASK the right questions.

    Why was the man Adam reduced to captive worker when he never needed to be replanted nor employed in the first place!

    because the man, was taken over by an invading god- - aka- the ''lord'' Yahweh
    the exact same analogy as the white man invading the different countries and replanting the locals, into other areas, and employing the locals as ''sub-servant'' workers and subjected to death on mere whims

    that scenario has been '''the fashion''' from the beginning and still works for each generation
    its HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS and the NWO agenda - total control of each persons life , + to be manipulated into a robotic servitude.

    this system remained for the Jews under Moses as a ROBOTIC SERVITUDE to a system that failed its purpose.

    now this thought leads me to ask another right question~~~
    this system from the beginning, was a prison system, and it held an individual as a CAPTIVE that formed ROBOTS AS ALL PRISONERS ARE robots to a system

    but

    THE ELOHIM never desired ROBOTS BUT truly ENLIGHTENED INDIVIDUALS, FILLED WITH TRUE DIVINE KNOWLEDGE, SO POWERFUL AND GREAT - it is unbelievable~~~~~
    because
    each parent actually desires their offspring to succeed out from the greatness of the parents to achieve EVEN GREATER THINGS FOR THEMSELVES. amen
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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    usurper/captives/prison worker = seek and ye shall find

    can the bondages of traditional thinking be broken?
    only if THE WORD opens the eyes of the blinded

    so was there any other group or person who asked questions about the ''prison commandante''
    Child_survivors_of_Auschwitz.jpg

    YES~~~~

    surprise and surprised to find Gnostic Jews condemning the God of the Jews as an imposter, a usurper god?
    so dear lucy is not so silly hey~~~~~

    Did Yahweh pull an act and become God Most High or has the Fraud of Israel been caught on tape?

    Take a look at the Gospel of John chapter 8 where Jesus rips the Jews for worshipping the devil.
    John "knew" who Yahweh was long before historians came along on the scene to confirm the forged identity of Yahweh.
    John's gospel and Revelation continue the Gnostic spiritual revolt against the tribal god of the Jews'
    The Gnostics like John somehow discovered the tribal god of the Jews wasn't God Most High, never was in fact, while Hebrew scribes and priests during the Babylonian captivity wrote the mythology of their lower god


    hmmmm
    can we dig deeper into the history of a usurper?
    e Origin of Yahweh: Yahweh was one of the "sons of EL"
    That Yahweh was originally a son of El is attested by a document (KTU 1.1 IV 14) from Ugarit, a Palestinian site occupied by neighbours of Israel.
    It reads sm . bny . yw . ilt, which translates as "The name of the son of god, Yahweh."
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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    so according to church history there was a group

    of 1st converts to believed far differently than what is believed today
    why?
    were they 'right''
    is the church wrong?
    how can the system be exposed?
    how can the leadership be exposed.?
    does it need exposing?
    as the whole world lies in wickedness.

    if we ask the right ? ad become a detective/seeker of the truth we will find

    there is only 1 way = fruit inspection.....the detectives always quiz the husband 1st as a chief suspect for the wife's murder -

    so here is some news
    the Gnostic intellectuals of the first centuries of the Christian Era did have access to all the biblical scriptures and were able to study them freely.
    we dont
    fruit inspection time reveals
    They knew that the Hebrew Bible is chock-full of cruel acts of evil, ruthless genocides, demands of gruesome sacrifices, barbaric deeds and behaviours of tyranny attributed to Yahweh


    now amid all of this new news I found a special word HERE RESENTMENT
    clue clue clue a buzz word.


    resentment.

    In other words, the Gnostics knew that the biblical god was a real devil and his religions were brutal, bloodthirsty, misanthropic and obscurantist.
    The truth is that the Bible itself bears ample testimony that the supposed loving father of the Jews and Christians has a sadistic and evil nature and his numerous deeds documented in the so-called Sacred Scriptures are so abhorrent that most people today would believe that they were typical of a demonic entity.
    Upon reading the Bible objectively, it is evident that the Hebrew god Yahweh is a warlike, murderous and depraved character and is clear that he has a great resentment for mankind.

    woooo eeeee dooo eeee

    the lord god Yahweh RESENTED THE CREATION OF THE CHILDREN OF ELOHIM GOD.
    fruit fruit fruit talks more than the lips preach

    Today it is no longer a secret that the god of the Bible is a bloodthirsty and vengeful character.
    Since the Renaissance many enlightened thinkers have began to question the despicable immorality, depravity, cruelty, blood lust, misanthropy and xenophobia of Yahweh.


    are you enlightened to
    The Malevolence of Yahweh:
    The Divine Infamy
    “The most detestable wickedness, by the men who pretend to ''speak for god''
    One glimpse at the world and you know it reflects anti Christ because everything is either destroyed or being destroyed.
    It is what happens when people allow evil to do their thinking for them.

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