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    the PAINFUL TRUTH IS

    THE BBL [ bible] is full of errors - so saints are taught to RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE TRUTH FROM ERROR

    ERROR
    John 9 v 31
    “We know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is God-fearing and does His will, He hears them.”
    First of all, there is no one that is not a sinner.
    If the Father did not hear sinners or even listen to them, then none of us would be heard.
    * This one area has caused more grief in religious groups than all areas combined.

    I John 1v 8 “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”
    Okay so which one is it?

    Very strange, now John is saying if we say we have no sin we are lying…
    Then how in the world would god listen to any of us, since obviously, we are all sinners?
    By implication what was really being revealed was, those who deny the Father and his will and continue to live in error without regard to the process, it is those that have a spirit of rebellion, and it is that type of spirit that the Father will remain disconnected from.
    Ironically the same disciple who wrote the earlier verse where the Father does not hear sinners also wrote this other verse where it reveals, everyone is a sinner.

    PROBLEM
    Obviously poor editing or misrepresentation was purposefully created to deceive.
    Notice two conceptual errors within the first of these verses which reveals nefarious alterations.
    Just a slight alteration can increase lifelong misery.

    It says, ‘God does not hear sinners.’
    Of course, the Father hears sinners, because we are all sinners in this fallen condition.
    But the O.T. god [of this world] damns all sin and condemns often without any mercy.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Jesus always met the enemy head-on giving no quarter.
    Oh~You can be sure the contradictions in the Bible didn't get there by accident.
    ''Project Chaos'' didn't start in 2019 in the fake news media-It began at the beginning
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    evil will always FALL BACK upon itself and be destroyed = 70ad proves this point

    satan decided to set up a system that he wanted from the very beginning, a military system of rule of law.
    He then set rulers of this world based on his most faithful followers in rank and authority, and he and his children [ the tares + the angels of light ] have been ruling this cosmos and that which is connected to this MATRIX world ever since.

    The real difference between the 2 groups
    *satan and his clones reproduce chaos, war, harm, AND destruction in all they touch

    *The child of ABBA - reproduce the spirit of LIFE NOW AND MANIFEST ITS FRUITS in their daily living
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Jesus always met the enemy head-on giving no quarter.
    Oh~You can be sure the contradictions in the Bible didn't get there by accident.
    ''Project Chaos'' didn't start in 2019 in the fake news media-It began at the beginning
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unn1TX6y6hk

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    BBL[bible] error an example of many

    THE ERROR mixed with the TRUTH
    “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
    (This is the truth)
    Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.”
    (This is the lie!)

    Do you recognize it?
    Here this whole subject is about the mercy of the Father , and yet notice how this verse is inserted that shows another spirit here joining in.

    We are being told not to fear the Father due to the great love He has for us.
    And then without thought or reason this portion of the verse is added to where it speaks of fear of the Father as well as fear of going to hell and losing your soul.

    EYES TO SEE = hurrah THE FRUIT LOOK AT THE FRUIT

    SATAN is always adding his confusion to thought to scramble the truth and make us unsure about anything.
    But when you use the fruits of the spirit you can walk right through these traps.

    the truth is this
    “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
    Rather, have faith and trust in the One who can restore both body and soul at any time.”
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Jesus always met the enemy head-on giving no quarter.
    Oh~You can be sure the contradictions in the Bible didn't get there by accident.
    ''Project Chaos'' didn't start in 2019 in the fake news media-It began at the beginning
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    biblical Guidelines –
    God's treatment for leprosy:
    Get two birds. Kill one.
    Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one.
    Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly off
    . Next find a lamb and kill it.
    Wipe some of its blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe.
    Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe
    . Repeat.
    Finally kill a couple doves and offer one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering.
    (from Leviticus 14:2-32)
    the ''all powerful YHWH as unable to heal a leper'' - do you not think it very odd- that the YHWH creator??? of all things was unable to heal a leper????

    Jesus' cleansing of ten lepers is one of the miracles of Jesus reported in the Gospels (Gospel of Luke 17:11-19).
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Jesus always met the enemy head-on giving no quarter.
    Oh~You can be sure the contradictions in the Bible didn't get there by accident.
    ''Project Chaos'' didn't start in 2019 in the fake news media-It began at the beginning
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unn1TX6y6hk

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    have you ever wondered Who are the Gods afraid of?

    Who are the Gods afraid of?
    Who are the Gods hiding from?

    They want to be the power lords and they know once mankind accesses the true divine power then they will have
    nothing left to control humanity.
    Once great glory within you must be awakened [john 10 v 10] so that all can comprehend what has taken place in this world.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Jesus always met the enemy head-on giving no quarter.
    Oh~You can be sure the contradictions in the Bible didn't get there by accident.
    ''Project Chaos'' didn't start in 2019 in the fake news media-It began at the beginning
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unn1TX6y6hk

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    the lying verse/ book makes for religious lying people

    the lying verse/ book makes for religious lying people

    Apostle John wrote: Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law...

    He/She that commits sin/transgresses the law is of the devil; for the devil sinned from the beginning. 1 John 3:4; 1 John 3:
    THE LAW is no longer in vogue,
    Why not?
    It was fulfilled by the preacher John the B and Jesus sacrifice at the cross and a probation period of 40yrs added for the SWITCH FROM LAW TO GOOD-NEWS.
    THEN
    THE SPIRIT OF LIFE, took over as the spirit of TRUTH, so no person needs false information as they now can call upon the TRUTH SPIRIT - WHO WILL DELIVER THE FRUIT of the Spirit as LIVING WATERS TO THE BORN AGAIN BELIEVER WHO HAS BEEN RE- BORN OF AN INCORRUPTIBLE seed.

    THE LAW OF MOSES may will be ''in vogue'' for those under a strong delusion and modern day preachers who fleece their flocks.
    HOWEVER THE TRUTH REVEAL IS....
    THE SYSTEM OF YHWH was useless and imperfect + was fulfilled and then terminated in 70ad never to arise again but unfortunately has been ''RESURRECTED'' by the false concepts from the IAMHEBREW roots movements AND OTHER ASSORTED RELIGIOUS PHONIES.

    Inside the law of O.T. YHWH ''gods'' we begin to see the fruits of satan building to a climatic end.
    LAW = SIN = ORDINANCES = JUDGEMENT = WRATH = JEALOUSY.

    THE CROSS FIXED this ''GOD'' YHWH and stopped his lethal condemnation and the laws he invoked AND CREATED that now are deemed IMPERFECT AND USELESS.

    the true understanding is needed of ENGLISH WORD DEFINITIONS

    like FULFILL/FULFILLED.
    LETS GO back TO SCHOOL and get some real GOOD ed-u-cat-ion!

    fulfull/fulfilled/fulfillment

    A STATE OR A PROCESS THAT COMES TO AN END,
    comes to an end
    FINISHED COMPLETELY

    write on the chalk board 2000times....THE LAW OF MOSES IS FINISHED BECAUSE IT WAS DEEMED IMPERFECT THEREFORE USELESS to be continued.
    NOW
    When you post those lies FROM the BBL [bible] you will be declared ANTICHRIST- BY ALL TRUTH SEEKERS
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Jesus always met the enemy head-on giving no quarter.
    Oh~You can be sure the contradictions in the Bible didn't get there by accident.
    ''Project Chaos'' didn't start in 2019 in the fake news media-It began at the beginning
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unn1TX6y6hk

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    another BLEEP few '''seeeeeee'''

    The Real Story
    One such story that was illuminated by this treachery of firstborns being supplanted was Jacob and Esau.
    Jacob was known as the one who supplanted and stole Esau’s birthright due to the treachery and lies of his mother Rebekah.
    Together they colluded to deceive Isaac.
    And the Christian world has taken a blind eye to this deception and allowed the collusion to be acceptable.
    Jacob was named the one that Supplanted, it referenced how he took something that did not belong to him.
    This is one of the most powerful keys to unlock the greatest deception ever unmasked.
    Esau, is ESU, which is in type, the name of Jesus.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Jesus always met the enemy head-on giving no quarter.
    Oh~You can be sure the contradictions in the Bible didn't get there by accident.
    ''Project Chaos'' didn't start in 2019 in the fake news media-It began at the beginning
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unn1TX6y6hk

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    Lucy, your inability to rightly divide the Word of Truth, astounds me.

    Lucy, your inability to rightly divide the Word of Truth, astounds me. Yeshua said that He came to fulfill the Law, and after His suffering, death, burial, and third day resurrection, He began with Moses to explain about Himself. What you fail to grasp is that when Yeshua did this, none of the NT was written, ONLY the OT. Yeshua "opened" to them the fact that He fulfills the role of being the Passover Lamb, The Red Heifer, and the other BLOODY sacrifices that Moses wrote about, and YOU try to make us believe that the EVIL Satan designed this plan and put it into affect. Shame on you for the deception that you are trying to teach. Ken
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
    Abstain from meats offered to idols (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
    So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    The Real Story
    One such story that was illuminated by this treachery of firstborns being supplanted was Jacob and Esau.
    Jacob was known as the one who supplanted and stole Esau’s birthright due to the treachery and lies of his mother Rebekah.
    Together they colluded to deceive Isaac.
    And the Christian world has taken a blind eye to this deception and allowed the collusion to be acceptable.
    Jacob was named the one that Supplanted, it referenced how he took something that did not belong to him.
    This is one of the most powerful keys to unlock the greatest deception ever unmasked.
    Esau, is ESU, which is in type, the name of Jesus.
    Esau sold his birthright to Jacob for a bowl of red soup; and he despised his birthright, but of course U never bothered to mention this, and Jacob never stole his birthright, and U really need to fact check yourself before blurting out a mistake or lie.

    Gen.25:31-34.
    And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright. And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me? And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob. Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised his birthright.
    It seems one is teaching the same Baphomet freemason doctrine of Albert Pike from Morals and Dogma; Pike believed and taught that YHWH was really the devil, and that the devil was really the true God, because he attributed his worldly riches to the devil as another one does the same.

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    why is it a shame to tell the truth Ken????

    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Lucy, your inability to rightly divide the Word of Truth, astounds me. Yeshua said that He came to fulfill the Law, and after His suffering, death, burial, and third day resurrection, He began with Moses to explain about Himself. What you fail to grasp is that when Yeshua did this, none of the NT was written, ONLY the OT. Yeshua "opened" to them the fact that He fulfills the role of being the Passover Lamb, The Red Heifer, and the other BLOODY sacrifices that Moses wrote about, and YOU try to make us believe that the EVIL Satan designed this plan and put it into affect. Shame on you for the deception that you are trying to teach. Ken
    the N T is not an original work Ken
    the N T is copied from hundreds of other copies.
    there is NO original WRITING FROM JESUS
    [if so it is lost hidden or destroyed.]

    AND THE FRUIT OF THIS INFORMATION????

    Hmmmm SO WHAT?
    YOU POST KEN
    Yeshua "opened" to them the fact that He fulfills the role of being the Passover Lamb, The Red Heifer, and the other BLOODY sacrifices that Moses wrote about
    the Jews as a whole did not change their laws AND still reject Jesus goodnews
    So who received ETERNAL LIFE from such knowledge?

    JESUS STOPPED the sacrifices because of their bloodletting torture of animals


    the law of Moses was regarded as useless and imperfect and was totally destroyed in 70ad
    also
    to add more bitter herbs - was the TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL =given to Moses BY angels as recorded.
    THE LAW WAS FULFILLED at the cross
    end of story

    if you expect to receive LIFE NOW AND to REMAIN from the Law of Moses - you are in for a huge shock!
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Jesus always met the enemy head-on giving no quarter.
    Oh~You can be sure the contradictions in the Bible didn't get there by accident.
    ''Project Chaos'' didn't start in 2019 in the fake news media-It began at the beginning
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unn1TX6y6hk

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    how do you know that Elijah/peach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peach View Post
    Esau sold his birthright to Jacob for a bowl of red soup; and he despised his birthright, but of course U never bothered to mention this, and Jacob never stole his birthright, and U really need to fact check yourself before blurting out a mistake or lie.

    Gen.25:31-34.
    the O.T. is corrupted in many instances.
    the lying scribes, admit, they doctored the truth of a situation.

    JER 8 V 8 =How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
    CAN YOU EXPLAIN Elijah/peach/guyguy HOW? the BBL[bible] is ALL the truth when LIES AND FALSE verses are placed within the O,T, as a ruse of deception
    Hmmm

    the only way to stop a ruse is by the fruit it bears BEGINNING WITH - a lying deceiver as Jacob and his mother were - = bad fruits of robbing the heir.
    Jacob was known as the one who supplanted and stole Esau’s birthright due to the treachery and lies of his mother Rebekah.
    the evil intention.

    and to add a bitter pill to the prose
    FATHER NEVER HATED ANYONE
    so satan may well have hated Esau but the FATHER of us all did not..................

    Jesus proved it over and over.
    LOVE IS LORD OF ALL as John 3 v 16 proves
    Jacob (whom He later renamed “Israel”)
    the real meaning of IS-RA-EL
    MAN WORSHIPS THE SUN GOD
    ISH - MAN
    RA -EL- EGYPTIAN SUN GOD.
    IS -RA - EL
    What does the name Israel mean?
    Is it just a co-incidence that the name 'Israel' incorporates three gods/goddesses, or is it the reason for the name Israel?
    The name 'Israel' according to the Jews, means "God rules", or "God shines"
    WHAT GOD???
    IT WAS NEVER THE FATHER OF YESHUA AS HE CAME TO INTRODUCE/RECONCILE US TO OUR REAL CREATOR ABBA


    BTW Elijah
    just as your evil intentions is to deceive the rest of us by posing as '''peach'' [named after the back yard pet goat]
    and
    saying the lie you were never divorced as recorded on L.A.
    Last edited by LucySmith; 10-04-2018 at 08:40 PM.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Jesus always met the enemy head-on giving no quarter.
    Oh~You can be sure the contradictions in the Bible didn't get there by accident.
    ''Project Chaos'' didn't start in 2019 in the fake news media-It began at the beginning
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unn1TX6y6hk

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    what a truth seeker discovers is very informative....the angels

    Yes,
    angels gave the earlier Law for Israel at Mount Sinai.

    It was common knowledge among the Jewish people in the 1st century that the Law of God was presented to Moses by angels — and not directly by God himself.
    Josephus, the Jewish priest/historian of the 1st century and an expert in Jewish beliefs at the time, said:
    “We have learned the noblest of our doctrines and the holiest of our laws from the ANGELS sent by God.”
    When the Deacon Stephen [stephen was not an evangelist NO he was a deacon only] rebuked the Jewish authorities in Jerusalem for going against the Law, he said they were those
    “Who have received the Law by the disposition of ANGELS, and have not kept it” (Acts 7:53).
    Speaking about the Law of Moses
    “The word spoken by ANGELS was steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompense of reward.”
    • Hebrews 2:2


    And false apostle Paul had further to say,
    “Wherefore then serves the Law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by ANGELS in the hand of a mediator”
    • Galatians 3:19


    But wait! hold ion here
    In spite of what the Jewish priest/historian Josephus, the deacon Stephen and the false apostle Paul had to say, are we not informed in Exodus that it was God (Elohim in Hebrew) who gave the Law to Moses?
    Yes, indeed.
    But what is not recognized by many people is that the word “Elohim” can refer also to ANGELS.

    now to seek the truth on the matter = LOOK AT THE FRUITS OF THE O.T. SYSTEM
    war
    murder of nations
    killing if millions of people
    sacrifice and cruelty to millions of helpless animals
    rape
    thief
    destruction and the robbery of nations and their bounty
    mind control
    captives
    613 laws deemed IMPERFECT AND USELESS.

    THE GOD and its fruits - evil - the angels = fallen
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Jesus always met the enemy head-on giving no quarter.
    Oh~You can be sure the contradictions in the Bible didn't get there by accident.
    ''Project Chaos'' didn't start in 2019 in the fake news media-It began at the beginning
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unn1TX6y6hk

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    Lucy, The Word of Elohim is meaningless to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    the N T is not an original work Ken
    the N T is copied from hundreds of other copies.
    there is NO original WRITING FROM JESUS
    [if so it is lost hidden or destroyed.]

    AND THE FRUIT OF THIS INFORMATION????

    Hmmmm SO WHAT?
    YOU POST KEN

    the Jews as a whole did not change their laws AND still reject Jesus goodnews
    So who received ETERNAL LIFE from such knowledge?

    JESUS STOPPED the sacrifices because of their bloodletting torture of animals


    the law of Moses was regarded as useless and imperfect and was totally destroyed in 70ad
    also
    to add more bitter herbs - was the TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL =given to Moses BY angels as recorded.
    THE LAW WAS FULFILLED at the cross
    end of story

    if you expect to receive LIFE NOW AND to REMAIN from the Law of Moses - you are in for a huge shock!
    Lucy, The Word of Elohim is totally meaningless to you and YOUR teachings. Time after time after time Yeshua, His Disciples, and the writers of The Scriptures validated that the Word of Elohim is The Truth, yet you try to teach us that The Word of Elohim is in actuality, the word of Satan. Every place that The Word of Elohim is validated (Like where Yeshua tells us that man shall live by EVERY Word that proceeds forth from the mouth of Yahweh Elohim), you cry foul, and tell us it is all a lie. Baloney my Dear. If you truly had Yeshua's Spirit to where you could properly discern good from evil, and truth from falsehood, then you would come up with an alternate explanation instead of spitting on The Word of Truth. Yahweh Elohim of the OT desired mercy rather than sacrifice, and this is something that you cannot comprehend, because the sacrifice WAS necessary. That is where your teachings fall short. You try to tell us that Yeshua was sacrificed, and that it was necessary for you to be forgiven, yet the commands in the Law which point to or foreshadow His sacrifice, you say, is given to us by Satan. You are so confused my Dear in what you are teaching us. Ken

    P.S. BTW, you need to grasp the fact that the NT was non-existent when Yeshua established His Ecclesia. The ONLY writings they had were OT Scriptures, and Yeshua stated that those OT Scriptures could not be BROKEN, like how YOU try to break them.
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
    Abstain from meats offered to idols (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
    So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    that is only your indoctrinated opinion dear Ken you remain BLIND

    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Lucy, The Word of Elohim is totally meaningless to you and YOUR teachings. Time after time after time Yeshua, His Disciples, and the writers of The Scriptures validated that the Word of Elohim is The Truth, yet you try to teach us that The Word of Elohim is in actuality, the word of Satan. Every place that The Word of Elohim is validated (Like where Yeshua tells us that man shall live by EVERY Word that proceeds forth from the mouth of Yahweh Elohim), you cry foul, and tell us it is all a lie. Baloney my Dear. If you truly had Yeshua's Spirit to where you could properly discern good from evil, and truth from falsehood, then you would come up with an alternate explanation instead of spitting on The Word of Truth. Yahweh Elohim of the OT desired mercy rather than sacrifice, and this is something that you cannot comprehend, because the sacrifice WAS necessary. That is where your teachings fall short. You try to tell us that Yeshua was sacrificed, and that it was necessary for you to be forgiven, yet the commands in the Law which point to or foreshadow His sacrifice, you say, is given to us by Satan. You are so confused my Dear in what you are teaching us. Ken

    P.S. BTW, you need to grasp the fact that the NT was non-existent when Yeshua established His Ecclesia. The ONLY writings they had were OT Scriptures, and Yeshua stated that those OT Scriptures could not be BROKEN, like how YOU try to break them.
    YOU ARE A RELIGIOUS BLIND MAN, trying every hard to prove you can ''see''
    the church has given you a misconception and your mind is controlled by its clergy and what they have told you to believe!
    full stop

    the real problem
    if all this was so clear and so straight forth any one understand what Jesus was saying - why didn't the jew convert in droves.
    alas not so
    Yes Jesus could open the scriptures to Isa 53 = and Yes those people could see AS A WITNESS TO HIS TIME ON THE CROSS.


    Who has believed our message
    and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
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    He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
    and like a root out of dry ground.
    He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
    nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
    3
    He was despised and rejected by mankind,
    a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
    Like one from whom people hide their faces
    he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.
    4
    Surely he took up our pain
    and bore our suffering,
    yet we considered him punished by God,
    stricken by him, and afflicted.
    5
    But he was pierced for our transgressions,
    he was crushed for our iniquities;
    the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
    and by his wounds we are healed.
    6
    We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
    each of us has turned to our own way;
    and the Lord has laid on him
    the iniquity of us all.
    7
    He was oppressed and afflicted,
    yet he did not open his mouth;
    he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
    and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
    so he did not open his mouth.
    8
    By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away.
    Yet who of his generation protested?
    For he was cut off from the land of the living;
    for the transgression of my people he was punished.[b]
    9
    He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
    and with the rich in his death,
    though he had done no violence,
    nor was any deceit in his mouth.
    10
    Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
    and though the Lord makes[c] his life an offering for sin,
    he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
    and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
    11
    After he has suffered,
    he will see the light of life[d] and be satisfied[e];
    by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will justify many,
    and he will bear their iniquities.
    12
    Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,[g]
    and he will divide the spoils with the strong,[h]
    because he poured out his life unto death,
    and was numbered with the transgressors.
    For he bore the sin of many,
    and made intercession for the transgressors.
    this is clear now to all in retrospect - looking back those people Jesus spoke too and opened the verses too - could understand this perfectly
    Jesus himself stood up in their assembly and gave a short version of this truth before He died.


    but if HE READ out from Moses???? most will never understand
    = proof
    they have not for 2000 years.
    = THAT IS THE FRUIT OF MOSES writing = Most jews unable to convert to the Good news.

    THE JEWS DON'T UNDERSTAND EVEN TODAY AND THEY HAVE HAD 2000 YRS TO STUDY THIS WHOLE DRAMA

    now let me be frank
    you will never ever never ever to infinity RECEIVE LIFE AND REMAIN - from anything Moses ''wrote'' via angels
    you are so blinded Ken, you grasp at straws
    MOSES IS NOT THE THE SAVIOUR NOR CAN HE EVER BRING YOU TO ETERNAL LIFE - YES PRETEND TO KEEP SOME LAWS OF MOSES BUT FAIL TO KEEP 613 OF THEM AS A UNIT THAT CANNOT BE BROKEN.

    WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
    I WILL TELL YOU

    YOU USE EXTERNAL rituals to make you clean and righteous
    you use a failed system to clean you from all those bondages that make you miss the Mark
    you remain a captive to the law of sin and of death - so you will die IN SIN.

    YOUR FAILURE KEN - YOU CANNOT TRUST AND BELIEVE THE SAVIOUR AND HIS SAVING POWER TO CARE AND PROTECT YOU UNDER ALL SITUATIONS
    - YOU FAIL THE FAITH TEST and so because it is so difficult to endure FAITH IN ALL TESTS - FEW MAKE IT THROUGH TO WALK BY FAITH AND NOT BY SIGHT.


    YOU FAIL THE FAITH TEST - BECAUSE OF YOUR UNBELIEF =
    THEREFORE JESUS CANNOT WORK IN YOU TO CHANGE /TRANSFORM YOU INTO ETERNAL LIFE HERE and to remain

    now ofcourse you can rant and rave and call me all manner of names and pretend i am weird old and stupid............wont do you any good
    YOU DONT KNOW THE SAVIOUR NOR HIS SAVING POWER YOU ARE FAR TOO RELIGIOUS FOR YESHUA.
    UNDER THE MINISTRY OF YHWH MOSES AND ANGELS = ALL DIED IN THE WILDERNESS.

    YOU PLAY CHURCH IN THE HOSPICE FOR THE DYING.
    LETS PRETEND..... AND THE GRAVE BECKONS YOU HOME
    Last edited by LucySmith; 10-04-2018 at 11:01 PM.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Jesus always met the enemy head-on giving no quarter.
    Oh~You can be sure the contradictions in the Bible didn't get there by accident.
    ''Project Chaos'' didn't start in 2019 in the fake news media-It began at the beginning
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unn1TX6y6hk

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    ALLOW ME TO TELL YOU dear Ken.... the secret of eternal life,

    16640812_1788978284756560_379937402722421121_n.jpg Lucy tells


    you have to be chosen as A FRIEND and as a FRIEND OF THE SAVIOUR HE TEACHES HIS SAINTS TO WALK AND LIVE UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS AS He lived
    THE CONDITION IS not to be conformed to the god of this world = this means = everything you thought of as real is not real,
    Jesus proved this by walking through walls = the walls were like chicken wire and HIs body flowed like water through the holes.;

    the WAY He was able to walk as a Son of Abba was because = HE BECAME UNPLUGGED from all vanity/Matrix fixes, ideas, values and systems that are based upon the Tree of the Knowledge of good and evil,
    HE ALSO BECAME UNPLUGGED from the law of Moses. HE FULFILLED IT - ended it.

    so
    to become UNPLUGGED IS - TO WALK IN THE SAME FAITH [trust, confidence] that HE WALKED IN AS HE FOLLOWED HIS FATHER'S ADVICE AND INSTRUCTION DAILY AS HE PRAYED.
    this teaching on transformation of mind then body has NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY keeping PARTS OF THE LAW OF MOSES
    [that is for the outside external vanity system]

    THE TRANSFORMATION COMES VIA OUR MIND BEING TOTALLY REPROGRAMMED TO REMOVE THE ;;DEATH;; GENE FROM OUR dna STRANDS SO WE ARE REDEEMED BY re=gene=ration
    our genes reverted back to normal functioning.

    THE NEW MIND IS A MIND OF THE ANOINTING.
    ITS THE ANOINTING THAT BREAKS THE YOKE OF SLAVERY TO THE MATRIX

    the anointing comes into our lives when we ''step out in faith'' not look into the seen but into the unseen,
    2 kings 6 v 13-17

    And Elisha prayed, “Open his eyes, LORD, so that he may see.” Then the LORD opened the servant's eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses.
    the enemy was and is helpless against THE FAITH IN THE OPENED EYE.

    this is a training session that takes a long while to grasp, because the evil in vanity is so powerful; it binds humans to it by FEAR AND BUT WHAT IF?
    OH BUT WHAT IF? - ARE THE WAYS OF AN ANTICHRIST IN UNBELIEF.

    the truth is the faith IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A HUMAN TO ACCEPT, SO Jesus imparts as His gift of faith to His friends

    THERE IS no way TO BECOME HIS FRIEND UNLESS YOU WALK AS HE DID BY FAITH - AN ACTION VERB OF DIVINE POWER THAT CHANGES US AND OUR SITUATION

    TO have this faith gift ye shall walk in numerous tests of faith, to prove you have become THE JUST WHO ARE WELL PLEASING TO ABBA.

    this is called the narrow way.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Jesus always met the enemy head-on giving no quarter.
    Oh~You can be sure the contradictions in the Bible didn't get there by accident.
    ''Project Chaos'' didn't start in 2019 in the fake news media-It began at the beginning
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unn1TX6y6hk

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