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    Your messiah the devil must have forgot to tell John about the commandments huh?

    Lucy J. ye have the same spirit of rebellion as ye DD daddy the devil, because ye are always at WAR against the divine law and commandments.

    And the dragon/devil was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 12:17.

    And John speaking of the 144.000 redeemed.

    Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Revelation 14:12.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...s+of+God&t=KJV

    Sorry Lucy J. ye LIES won't hold up against the apostle John.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    Jesus proclaimed HE IS - THE WAY, THE TRUTH, THE LIFE.....................

    THAT WAS AND IS HIS PERSONAL PROCLAMATION out into the universe
    do YOU understand what a PROCLAMATION IS and how it works?
    a public or official announcement dealing with a matter of great importance.
    A PROCLAMATION is a vital essence to the Ekklesia and the 2nd lesson in the JESUS SCHOOL HOUSE is to learn HOW TO PROCLAIM
    [ a vital lesson]

    So JESUS ''''PROCLAIMED HIS PRESENCE'''' TO THE WORLD AND OUT TO THE UNIVERSE to all those unseen entities including
    Wickedness in high places
    Dominations
    Rulers of darkness
    Principalities and powers etc,
    HE PERSONALLY PROCLAIMED TO ALL - ''THAT HE ALONE IS THE WAY TO THE TRUTH AND ENTRANCE INTO THE LIFE.''

    Therefore~~
    By announcing this divine PROCLAMATION, as THE MOST influential Person in the history of mankind no OTHER being was ever considered AS...…………..
    *the truth
    *the life
    *the way
    prior to Jesus personal announcing.
    Making No other gods equal to HIS WAY, HIS TRUTH AND HIS LIFE.

    THE FRUITS
    Jesus and the New Testament—good - saving the Lost, healing the sick, raising the dead to life
    Yahwehs [plural] and the Old Testament—not really so good - just keep your eyes peeled for the blood.

    some bible readers, [awakened from their religious sleep by Messiah,] are discovering the God of the Hebrews just doesn’t seem to be playing on the same team with the Saviour of the Gospels.
    In the first century AD, huge throngs of listeners followed Him in every city, in awe of the powerful miracles He performed and the words He spoke.
    Demons were cast out.
    People were raised from the dead.
    Food was multiplied.
    People were healed.
    Myths were shattered.
    Lives were changed = from the Christ verb, the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

    a vastly different ministry to the O.T. Gods, butchery and chaos and temper tantrums.
    ''One of the most frequently used phrases in the whole "Word of God" is "and the anger of Yahweh was kindled."
    The most difficult thing for any person is to admit being wrong.
    Unlearning false knowledge and learning true knowledge in its place is not easy.
    This can be a painful, shattering experience to find out you have been lied to by a gross deception.

    have you ever NOTICED that
    the Yahwehs of the O.T. always behave as Wounded Gods
    HOW?
    always complaining moaning sulking, having tantrums, getting even by revenge and blaming - to name a few negative sins.
    THOSE elements are all the ''effects of darkness''.
    There is no doubt the accusations are (mostly) accurate: Yahwehs gods are violent, often in ways one would never allow a human leader or authority to be.

    notice
    THE YAH'S are In stark contrast to the SAVIOUR MESSIAH - who can even sympathize with humanity

    Yahweh is portrayed as mercurial, child-like (sometimes childish), petty, exceptionally violent, without affection.
    what is MERCURIAL mean - unpredictable, you never know where you stand, moody
    - was The saviour Like this?

    the fruit
    is it any wonder the Jews cannot find the MESSIAH in their O.T.
    WELL MESSIAH SUMS IT ALL UP in a few words.
    Ye neither know Me, nor My Father:
    if ye had known Me, ye should have known My Father also.
    John 8:19.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Why did Christianity become another religion that is dominated by men and discriminates against, even persecutes, women
    Contrary to mainstream belief, Jesus did not discriminate against women but wanted to raise them up to a status of complete equality with men.

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    CONT... TO ESCAPE from that religious Box....compare the 2 systems

    The Ethics of Divine Commands
    the contrast of the ethics of Messiah
    the contrast of the ethics of the Yahwehs gods.

    Are we, as humans, able to question the ‘status quo’ of ethics?
    Is it our place to modify how we view certain ethical issues or is that beyond us?
    Is morality, in any way, dictated by the religious culture that has been created?
    the truth is
    the ETHICS of morality lie within a person, as they allow their divine conscious [as a child of God], to dictate to their behaviours.
    if you cannot do a certain ''something'' infront of your momma, no amount of ''divine commands for wrong reasons'' are acceptable.

    The problem in a nutshell is- the INCOMPATIBILITY OF THE LAW of Moses [A sub-culture] and the LAW OF LOVE [ the self sacrifice to divine service]
    [ its darkness and light.]

    the LAW OF LOVE [ the self sacrifice to divine service]
    John (13:34) mentions only “that you love one another.''
    Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another.”
    When describing one’s love - is AGAPE - use the Greek agapēseis (future indicative active verb), derived from agapaˇ (noun) or agape.
    SUMMED UP IT IS a love extended to all; it is also unconditional, having no requirements for its offer or receipt.
    Agape is a gift in the purest sense.
    AGAPE LOVE IS FOUND IN The ethic of Messiah to the Lost captives IS ONE OF divine GOODWILL TO ALL MEN
    THEREFORE
    - BECAUSE OF THIS GOODWILL ethic we are supposed to assume the existence of
    * a universally right to live,
    * to avoid abuse,
    * to enjoy ‘fundamental’ liberties of the goodnews ''
    *. Plus a matter of busying ourselves with these rights, by making sure that they are respected.”
    by comparison
    the ''love of Yahwehs was conditional'' as it came with the condition of obedience to 613 laws that were unable to be kept.
    the ''spirit of the law of Moses'' - failed the holy spirit fruits of love joy and peace as its daily fruit bearing.

    Judaism (and similar traditions) demand that one “measure up” to the Law, while Christ delivers the unconditional acceptance of goodwill to the captives.
    THIS IS WHY THE JEWS CANNOT FIND our MESSIAH in their laws.
    He is not there
    He cannot live and minister in darkness of murder revenge harm chaos mood swings and bloodlusting
    He simply doesn't have the ethics of the O.T. YAHWEHS.
    Last edited by LucySmith; 10-28-2019 at 09:43 PM.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Why did Christianity become another religion that is dominated by men and discriminates against, even persecutes, women
    Contrary to mainstream belief, Jesus did not discriminate against women but wanted to raise them up to a status of complete equality with men.

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    sheeple -- going to the slaughter. eaten by wolves looking like SHEEP

    THE M.O for deception to flourish

    ''TELL them for centuries, the bible is holy pure and ''gods word''
    Give them the impression ''dont ask questions, just believe us, we know you don't.
    Tell them God's ways are a mystery and far higher than our ways
    Tell them the whole world lays in deception, but you belong to the true church and are saved
    Tell them all other churches are wrong.''

    This is a dynamic formula FOR THE DECEIVED PEWS TO BE TOTALLY INDOCTRINATED by true evil.
    As we know these people all perish, from lack of knowledge


    The fruits FROM THE BEGINNING
    Since the beginnings of Christian theology, people have recognized the tension between some of the violent portraits of God in the Old Testament versus the revelation of God in Christ.
    We like to pretend that these views are not contradictory.
    We’ve created a dance of fancy theological footwork to merge the image of violence with the image of peace.
    We try to say its not contradiction and use words like “paradox” and “mystery” instead.
    We say things like “God’s ways are higher than our ways.”

    All the while, we know it doesn’t add up.

    The reality is that we see two opposing portraits of God in the scriptures:
    a violent God of wrath slaughtering his enemies and commanding his people to do the same,
    and
    Then Jesus… saying His Father is kind to the ungrateful and wicked,
    He loves His enemies and commanding us to do the same.

    Jesus is the image of the invisible God, and THE standard by which all other images of God must be held accountable.

    contrast the Yahs - the myth, the men, the guys with the ancient technology... whatever = have not been perfected in love.
    Why not ?
    satan cannot love.
    Yahwehs the gods of fear
    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear.
    For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
    – 1 John 4:18
    MESSIAH IS PERFECTED IN LOVE.

    We all know for thousands of years, this world has been filled with rage war and violence.
    The pew people are using whatever portrait of God they can find on the biblical smorgasbord of divine portraits to excuse whatever kind of violent and unloving attitude they have against people they hate or disagree with.
    Jesus came to Make His world filled with love joy and peace and all manner of goodwill.
    That never happened.
    the text book advises otherwise in hundreds of pages.
    The Bible has been used throughout history to excuse slavery, war, genocide, torture, vengeance, capital punishment, and the superiority complex of ''the chosen”.
    The reality is that all of this can be found in the Bible.
    And yet, these things are the opposite of Jesus and His goodwill and peace to all men.

    Brennan Manning hit the nail on the head:

    I am deeply distressed by what I can only call in our Christian culture the idolatry of the Scriptures.
    For many Christians, the Bible is not a pointer to God but God himself.
    In a word – bibliolatry.
    God cannot be confined to a leather-bound book.
    I develop a nasty rash around people who speak as if mere scrutiny of its pages will reveal precisely how God thinks and precisely what God wants.

    The four Gospels are the key to knowing Jesus.
    But conversely, Jesus is the key to knowing the meaning of the gospel – and of the Bible as a whole.
    Instead of remaining content with the bare letter, we should pass on to the more profound mysteries that are available only through intimate and heartfelt knowledge of Jesus.


    ONE SUCH MYSTERY IS FOUND IN JOHN 11 V 24 25 26
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Why did Christianity become another religion that is dominated by men and discriminates against, even persecutes, women
    Contrary to mainstream belief, Jesus did not discriminate against women but wanted to raise them up to a status of complete equality with men.

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    Old Testament Portraits Vs. Christ

    Old Testament Portraits Vs. Christ
    “Kill them all. Men, women, children, and babies. Show them no mercy.” –
    YAHWEH God in Deuteronomy 7 and 1 Samuel 15

    “Love your enemies. In so doing, you will be like your Father, who is kind to the wicked. Be merciful as your Heavenly Father is merciful.”
    – Jesus in Luke 6

    Here we have juxtaposed two images of God.
    One is an image of God in the Bible from thousands of years before Christ and one is the words of Christ himself who is “the image of the invisible God” and the “exact representation of God’s being.”

    Like it or not, this demonstrates a black and white contradiction.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Why did Christianity become another religion that is dominated by men and discriminates against, even persecutes, women
    Contrary to mainstream belief, Jesus did not discriminate against women but wanted to raise them up to a status of complete equality with men.

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    the HERD instinct.

    Herd instinct is a mentality that is distinguished by a lack of individual decision-making or introspection,
    causing people to think and behave in similar fashion to those around them.


    AS AN EXAMPLE.
    The church is a herd having a LACK OF DECISION MAKING without the divine abilities to dissect the lies from the truth.
    the HERD has a set of ideas, that lack true knowledge and they prefer blindness and deceptions, to the TRUTH,

    The truth is there is a ''ministry of 2 fathers''

    John 8:38-39
    '' I speak that which I have seen with MY FATHER: and ye do that which ye have seen with YOUR FATHER.
    = 2 fathers - My Father and Your Father

    They answered and said unto Him, Abraham is our father.
    Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
    MY FATHER- THE MINISTRY OF goodwill to all men
    YOUR FATHER- the father that seeks to kill and destroy

    ask
    what did they '''see'' their O.T. Yahweh gods do
    - because Jesus points them right to it '' in ya face'' by saying ye do that which ye have seen with YOUR FATHER.

    Jesus PAINTED the picture for them, with The Truth
    no one honest, can deny Jesus words when explaining the 2 fathers.
    Always remember for it’s crucial: Following Yeshua the Anointed Messiah is not religion – He is The Way and the only Way!

    so to the crux of this matter
    ASK
    If the god of the Jews is the same god as the Judeo-Christian god, how come the Jews are not saved?
    Let’s face it,
    no one is more devout and committed than a Torah believing Jew in his belief of a god – and yet he does not have salvation,
    nor can he, until he repents (changes).
    How can this be if he believes in the same god as Christians?

    hello hello hello - any good thinking saints out there??????
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Why did Christianity become another religion that is dominated by men and discriminates against, even persecutes, women
    Contrary to mainstream belief, Jesus did not discriminate against women but wanted to raise them up to a status of complete equality with men.

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    Lucy, look, you are being just like the Jew of Yeshua's day.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    Old Testament Portraits Vs. Christ

    YAHWEH God in Deuteronomy 7 and 1 Samuel 15
    “Kill them all. Men, women, children, and babies. Show them no mercy.” –
    – Jesus in Luke 6
    “Love your enemies. In so doing, you will be like your Father, who is kind to the wicked. Be merciful as your Heavenly Father is merciful.”
    Here we have juxtaposed two images of God.
    One is an image of God in the Bible from thousands of years before Christ and one is the words of Christ himself who is “the image of the invisible God” and the “exact representation of God’s being.”

    Like it or not, this demonstrates a black and white contradiction.
    Lucy, why are you following in the Jew of Yeshua's day footsteps? They did not have "ears" to hear, nor "eyes" to see, neither did they KNOW the Scriptures (Matthew 13:10-18 and Mark 12:24). Yes Lucy, these SECRETS that are HIDDEN have NOT been given to you, but if you change your heart to where it will BURN as you BEGIN to have the Scriptures OPENED to you, like those two Disciples on the Road to Emmaus (Luke 24:32), THEN you will realize how you have erred in defaming The Law AND Yahweh/Yeshua Elohim. Ken

    P.S. Just as the SEED is the Word of Elohim, and the Living Water is Eternal Life, those enemies who Yahweh/Yeshua said should not be sparred (even the little ones) represent the sins in OUR lives. We must put to death and spare not anything that causes us to sin, and that is the lesson we must learn from those who ENTERED the Land. Yahweh/Yeshua backed this up when He stated that if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off, or if you right eye does the same, pluck it out, for entering into the Land of Eternal Life IN Him, requires obedience.
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
    Abstain from meats offered to idols (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
    So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    i am a born again Believer of an incorruptible seed and by invitation only

    invited as His friend - into the eternal life realm HERE of the LIVING SAVIOUR JESUS the christ
    as per John 11 v 24 25 26
    THAT IS MY PROCLAMATION - and a vital degree.


    Imhebrew.
    - nor am i a jewess - as the law was only ever given to the jews - a truth you fail to receive ImHebrew
    - nor a lawkeeper of a weak useless and imperfect law - from a weak angry god whose bloodlusting is renown
    - note well ---- the Messiah had - A Vastly different ministry to the O.T. Gods, butchery and chaos and temper tantrums.
    '' One of the most frequently used phrases in the whole of the O.T. is

    "Word of God" is "and the anger of Yahweh was kindled."

    - making that believer in the LAW OF MOSES weak useless and imperfect also angry and destructive
    - like the law - like the people.


    it has already been proved by THE FRUIT
    THAT there is NO CLEAR verses with understanding SO the old wine still remains for the Jews as a whole.


    so again the deception remains as an inserted dung on the story to the road to Emmanus
    And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
    the fruits
    - otherwise if it were THE TRUTH and understandable the fruit would be - MILLIONS OF JEWS would have a heart burning for the Saviour and would have been converted if it was all so clear

    The bible is a very corrupted Text Book with many men's opinions inserted.
    The same deception occurring here as it has been proved it is not so

    And He said unto them,
    These are the words which I spoke unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning Me. Luke 24:44.
    however despite all bluffing Imhebrew the SIMPLE TRUTH REMAINS
    2 fathers exist - so i will repeat the truth again

    ASK
    If the god of the Jews is the same god as the Judeo-Christian god, how come the Jews are not saved?
    Let’s face it,
    no one is more devout and committed than a Torah believing Jew in his belief of a god – and yet he does not have salvation,
    nor can he, until he repents aka = changes fathers .
    How can this be if he believes in the same god as Christians?
    so
    ImHebrew - you are caught in a trap
    the tribe of Kenites were the offspring of satan and rewrote the scriptures according to their thinking.
    [ the thinking of satan i.e. lies murder destruction and the O.T. is full of it page after page - the holy spirit does not operate that way]
    so ask the real question
    what parts are outright lies? inserted by the lying scribes Jer 8 v 8.
    is it clear what part is a lie,
    all of it,
    a few verses,
    many chapters.
    Last edited by LucySmith; 10-29-2019 at 06:42 PM.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Why did Christianity become another religion that is dominated by men and discriminates against, even persecutes, women
    Contrary to mainstream belief, Jesus did not discriminate against women but wanted to raise them up to a status of complete equality with men.

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    ohhh how good is this Imhebrew, you are so trapped in a corner.... cont

    the road to Emmanus
    ''And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
    You pointed this out ImHebrew so i found the solution
    HOLY SUGGESTION
    Why don't you become a church missionary and take your sabbath saturday assembly over to say hmmm Jerusalem
    Ofcourse go with Bro Spying and side kick Elijah as a back up team of evangelists

    yes Sir i can picture it all in my mind.

    [ the intrepid three]

    Once there - go to the local Synagogue INTRODUCE YOURSELVES, and say a few friendly '' holy salems'' [ not hail Marys] and begin preaching as
    '''' A ROAD TO EMMANUS style preachers opening those scriptures before them all '''
    Spying can wear his prayer shawl and Elijah can take a record book of when the new luna sabbath moons come so you all look like jews.

    yes Sir
    the fruit
    Stand back to watch the ''' crowds of burning heart Jews '' you preached too at the Synagogue rush you with joy unspeakable.

    Hear their cries.... of......
    ''oh thank god oh thank god'' Missionary people the '' burning heart Jews '' cried out

    ''you have saved us and we are have become '' repentants'' all because you all opened up our O.T. scriptures.''

    NOT
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Why did Christianity become another religion that is dominated by men and discriminates against, even persecutes, women
    Contrary to mainstream belief, Jesus did not discriminate against women but wanted to raise them up to a status of complete equality with men.

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    so ImHebrew you dont want the challenge

    to convert the Jews with a ''ROAD TO EMMANUS sermon'' and its revelation!!!!
    You remind me so much a Elijah and his verse quotes without true understanding - its a case of '' just play pick a verse and hope it fits''
    hmmmm
    Didn't like that trap you got yourself into hey yes, the lips utter verses - but when the tar hits the road they run and hide,.
    Ofcourse that is very typical, of those unlearned in the true knowledge of Goodnews.,
    Why not seek the truth of divine freedom, Laddy while you are still standing upright.
    Its always best to be in the WINNER'S CIRCLE so to speak, and it's true meaning - aka- always victorious in Christ and no longer a victim to satan and his ruses.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Why did Christianity become another religion that is dominated by men and discriminates against, even persecutes, women
    Contrary to mainstream belief, Jesus did not discriminate against women but wanted to raise them up to a status of complete equality with men.

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    jewish conversion - mostly fails

    YET
    in the N.T. Jesus is found quoting O.T. verses about Himself.


    Why Doesn't Judaism Accept the Christian Messiah?

    Those fundamentalist Christian organizations aggressively target Jews for conversion
    But what ARE the fundamental reasons why Judaism does not accept the Christian Messiah.

    The problem is the core teachings and doctrines of the Church are incompatible with the cornerstone principles declared by the Prophets of Israel,
    Plus
    They are opposed by the most cherished tenets contained in the Jewish Scriptures.

    but but but ~~~~ some say

    Jesus quotes the O. T.
    However it seems over the course of many centuries, the Church systematically altered the Jewish Scriptures in its authorized translations of the Bible in order to persuade its adherents that Jesus is the promised Jewish Messiah.

    a little research shows us
    That Christian translators manipulated, misquoted, and mistranslated verses in the Hebrew Scriptures so that these texts appear to be speaking about Jesus.

    Over the past 2000YRS, Christians have been unaware of this systematic Bible-tampering because few parishioners can read the Hebrew Bible in its original language.

    Since time immemorial, earnest churchgoers utterly depended upon man made Christian translations of the "Old Testament" in order to understand the hmmmm "Word of God.''
    the goodnews is - those awakened gentiles now see the lies they have been indoctrinated with since birth.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    I'm thankful that the Almighty has given me an open mind to want to hear both sides of the story to make an informed decision.
    Last edited by LucySmith; 10-31-2019 at 02:56 AM.
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Why did Christianity become another religion that is dominated by men and discriminates against, even persecutes, women
    Contrary to mainstream belief, Jesus did not discriminate against women but wanted to raise them up to a status of complete equality with men.

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    Ken is correct Lucy.

    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Lucy, why are you following in the Jew of Yeshua's day footsteps? They did not have "ears" to hear, nor "eyes" to see, neither did they KNOW the Scriptures (Matthew 13:10-18 and Mark 12:24). Yes Lucy, these SECRETS that are HIDDEN have NOT been given to you, but if you change your heart to where it will BURN as you BEGIN to have the Scriptures OPENED to you, like those two Disciples on the Road to Emmaus (Luke 24:32), THEN you will realize how you have erred in defaming The Law AND Yahweh/Yeshua Elohim. Ken

    P.S. Just as the SEED is the Word of Elohim, and the Living Water is Eternal Life, those enemies who Yahweh/Yeshua said should not be sparred (even the little ones) represent the sins in OUR lives. We must put to death and spare not anything that causes us to sin, and that is the lesson we must learn from those who ENTERED the Land. Yahweh/Yeshua backed this up when He stated that if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off, or if you right eye does the same, pluck it out, for entering into the Land of Eternal Life IN Him, requires obedience.
    Lucy,

    Ken is correct ABOVE, and ye simply DO NOT understand the SEED which is the word of Elohim Luke 8:11, and the word of the Kingdom of Yah Matthew 13:19.

    See here: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...the+word&t=KJV

    PS: There is no hoping that it fits, because Yah Messiah Himself says so.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    when Jesus declared out into the universe to all dominions powers and wickedness

    it is finished the way for all captives was now opened to escape and Jesus can do no more.
    IT IS FINISHED

    THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE= opened up for '' the whosoever will'' people
    the children of God
    aka '' the sons and daughters from the Bloodline of Adam/Seth''

    therefore
    * making the SAVIOUR'S rejectors the tares as the offspring of the serpent.
    the REJECTORS are happy to service another god, as their father Cain did as a 2nd rated form of devotion.
    AKA - THE WEAK USELESS AND IMPERFECT LAW OF MOSES
    Hebrews 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect),

    The Law of Moses also could not make flawed humans perfect before God

    the REJECTORS
    a Rejector is a person who
    *throws out Messiah as useless or worthless;
    *to discard Messiah's message of peace on earth and goodwill to all men.
    * to rebuff THE person called THE SAVIOUR
    *to fail to accept the goodnews that is incompatible to their belief.
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    THE FRUIT
    that makes them the '' bad seed''
    that is the only VERY SAD conclusion.

    Messiah calls the '' whomsoever will people'' from each nation.
    * no one is special or more favoured than another = all are 1 body of His believers walking NOW in the holy power of the Christ
    only one being sows THE GOOD SEED
    DID YOU SEE THAT ~~ DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS?
    NO OTHER BEING sowed the good seed therefore making the law of Moses = not the good seed
    why not
    - the good seed is peace on earth and the goodwill to all men
    + added to this news is true salvation from the New covenant that makes the NEW CREATION under the Lord of Lords and King of kings.


    IT IS CHRIST + nothing.
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    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Why did Christianity become another religion that is dominated by men and discriminates against, even persecutes, women
    Contrary to mainstream belief, Jesus did not discriminate against women but wanted to raise them up to a status of complete equality with men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    it is finished the way for all captives was now opened to escape and Jesus can do no more.
    IT IS FINISHED

    THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE= opened up for '' the whosoever will'' people
    the children of God
    aka '' the sons and daughters from the Bloodline of Adam/Seth''

    therefore
    * making the SAVIOUR'S rejectors the tares as the offspring of the serpent.
    the REJECTORS are happy to service another god, as their father Cain did as a 2nd rated form of devotion.
    AKA - THE WEAK USELESS AND IMPERFECT LAW OF MOSES
    Hebrews 7:19 (for the law made nothing perfect),

    The Law of Moses also could not make flawed humans perfect before God

    the REJECTORS
    a Rejector is a person who


    Western-Wall-Kotel-prayer-tallit-tefillin.jpg

    THE FRUIT
    that makes them the '' bad seed''
    that is the only VERY SAD conclusion.

    Messiah calls the '' whomsoever will people'' from each nation.
    * no one is special or more favoured than another = all are 1 body of His believers walking NOW in the holy power of the Christ
    only one being sows THE GOOD SEED
    DID YOU SEE THAT ~~ DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS?
    NO OTHER BEING sowed the good seed therefore making the law of Moses = not the good seed
    why not
    - the good seed is peace on earth and the goodwill to all men
    + added to this news is true salvation from the New covenant that makes the NEW CREATION under the Lord of Lords and King of kings.


    IT IS CHRIST + nothing.
    Lucy,

    therefore
    * making the SAVIOUR'S rejectors the tares as the offspring of the serpent.
    The tares are those like you, they THINK that they are the WHEAT as ye do, however, ye REJECT the True Messiah's words and sayings as being FALSE, and to reject His words is the same as rejecting Him John 12:48 also, and the TARES will NOT obey or keep His words or sayings either John 14:23-24.

    See here: http://www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=14&t=KJV#24

    And here: http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...s&page=2&t=KJV
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    The rejectors - the tares

    THE 2 SEEDS
    THE 2 FATHERS
    THE TWO BLOODLINES

    When Jesus begins His ministry around the year 28AD, teaching in the synagogue of His hometown, Nazareth,
    The congregation at first "spoke well of Him,'' and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded from out of His mouth.

    BUT A LITTLE LATER
    Then, on hearing more of His preaching, "all in the synagogue were filled with wrath.''
    ask?
    Was Yahweh always ''filled with Wrath''? - aka - the other father introduced by Jethro the Kenite priest to Moses.
    "Word of God" is "and the anger of Yahweh was kindled."
    Other Jews, however, were moved to follow Him, and on one occasion His disciples and others stood about as He sat on a mountain
    —the Sermon on the Mount—at which "the crowds were astonished''
    WHY?
    He taught them as one who had authority, and not as their scribes.
    The scribes "murmur against His disciples," who they judged to be morally unsuitable.
    SO~~~
    "the Pharisees went out and took counsel against Him, how to destroy Him."

    CAN YOU SEE THE 2 FATHERS preaching side by side.
    * one filled with peace of the Holy Spirit
    * the other filled with murder and wrath from their Belief in Yahweh.
    CONTRAST THE fruits of the 2 fathers.

    When Jesus heals a man on a Sabbath, the same Jews again "went out, and immediately held counsel with the Herodians against him, how to destroy Him.''
    That is called MURDER
    CAIN was the 1st religious murderer - as the Hu-man offspring of the serpent

    the good seed HEALS
    the bad seed DESTROYS- They want to kill Him because He healed a man by faith on the Sabbath—
    2 FATHERS ON DISPLAY

    TO FULLY UNDERSTAND the 2 fathers - we also need to understand the Pharisee O.T. father and what their religion [based upon their Yahweh God] had taught them
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the O.T Yahweh?
    Why did Christianity become another religion that is dominated by men and discriminates against, even persecutes, women
    Contrary to mainstream belief, Jesus did not discriminate against women but wanted to raise them up to a status of complete equality with men.

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